Amsoil Vs Mobil 1

That statement right there just proves how ignorant your automotive knowledge is. You do NOT go by the tire manufacturer. Those EXACT tires may fit several different vehicles of different weights. Weight and tire footprint dictate optimal tire pressure.

I did read…and as others have pointed you’re making a HUGE mistake thinking that you can automatically increase the oil change interval because of Amsoil Marketing.

As I’ve asked several times now…How many vehicles have you kept over 300k miles? How many over 200k miles? I’m pretty sure we all know the answer.

Ford didn’t include the 2009 Focus in any updated oil change intervals as far as I know (and the pdf manual I looked up yesterday is the most current version from Ford…), so the current year is irrelevant.

Because it’s an open Forum that doesn’t allow the OP (yes I’m aware that you’re the OP) to restrict who’s allowed to read or respond. I’m allowed to respond to why I wouldn’t extend my oil change interval equally as much as you’re allowed to respond to why you will extend your oil change intervals.

Frankly, you’ve been given quite a few more reasons to not obsess over any particular brand as well as not extending oil changes. You clearly don’t care about the advice given (by people with decades more experience than I have…), so I wish you the best, but I won’t be surprised if I see issues down the road in new posts.

Pot meet kettle

I noticed that too…
:thinking:

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@texases - I thought that you wanted to stop … but decided to participate:)

@Mustangman and @pyrolord314 got it wrong - it sets limit due to pre-existing conditions.

Failure of equipment due to not following original equipment manufacturer (hereinafter, “OEM”) recommendations for warranty coverage, including lubricants, maintenance and drain intervals, prior to the first installation of AMSOIL lubricants, or any other pre-existing condition or OEM defect unrelated to the use of AMSOIL.

I also called and spoke with them. They wants you to go to 12k (XL) or 25k depending on which oil you choose - and they will honor the warranty.

Lastly, getting the Preferred Price, you need to pay $20./yr for the membership or $10/6 month.

AMS is the first to come up with Synthetic

BTW, Referring to some other posts, I am not asking anyone to switch - for me it was fact finding/knowledge discovery - I been on this forum for so many yrs, only now I came to know or paid attention to AMS. After this over 100 post and nay sayers, I found nothing wrong with this AMS. Even with the membership fee, if you are driving 10k or more in a year, it looks to me that you are saving $. I just don;t want to continue on this … thanks all for making your point of view and/or contributing. I might switch from M1 to Kirkland - I am already paying $60/yr membership.

sciconf,

What happens when:

  • your car is under warranty
  • your car calls for oil change intervals like 7.5K or 10K.
  • you get an engine failure at 13K into your oil change interval, and the failure “appears” to be the fault of the car manufacturer, and even not related to oil.

Who is going to pay for your new engine?

  • Will AMS pay for it? They will point fingers at the manufacturer.
  • The manufacturer will immediately deny your warranty claim because you exceeded your mileage.

You’ll be in the middle with a blown engine with nowhere to go.

You have numerous skilled contributors on this thread and many have worked in the field for 40-50 years. Think of it as a gold mine with a very deep and wide bench of skill. The common thread is AMS might be worth the extra money, but no one has found a need for it.

@JoeMario - valid thoughts.

I do not think that those will happen in the first place.
But you should be an informed consumer - please call them on 7 1 5 three nine two 7101. They have both CS and a Tech dept - I spoke with both of them.

If you are driving more than 10k in a yr, its surely worth the effort.

Your cheaper price keeps going up and up.

You keep saying you’re saving money…and that is mainly based on the AMS advertising that says you can go 12k miles on an oil change (no matter what the Manufacturer says). Yet you then ignore the Mobil-! advertising that also says you can go 12k miles.

The other part of the equation you don’t understand is that engine parameters change over time. Engine oil is used to keep engine parts separated, but also to help keep engine cool. Over time engine oil gets contaminated which degrades the oil. To keep engine oil doing it’s job properly it needs to be changed periodically. No matter what oil you use the contaminates will be the same.

AMS warranty is like an extended warranty on a car. 99.99999% of people who use it will never need it…Why? Because they sell their vehicles long before there would be any noticeable engine wear (no matter what oil they used). It’s a numbers game. I’m going to use AMS because it’s the best oil out there…I’m going to save hundreds of dollars by only changing my oil every 12k miles. That means I only need to change the oil twice a year. 71 months later (average length people keep new cars) you’re buying a new car. So much for savings THOUSANDS. Might have saved yourself $100.

Me (and many others in this forum) on the other hand - buy good oil (Mobil 1) and Wix filters…Change every 5k miles and keep them 300k+ miles.

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And these people who are being paid by Amsoil are going to say you can use any good brand of oil . Right ! Beginning to suspect Trolling or Spam .

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I was gonna say the same, but @sciconf is here for quite some time, so unless he’s just acquired a fortune in the AMS stock, it seems to be not the case.

Still, this is quite ridiculous “another oil thread” :frowning:

Very marginal returns if any…

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@thegreendrag0n - I just looked up and found AMS is a private company - so there is no stock you can buy using brokerage firm. I have no affiliation with AMS.

As per my original post, it sparked my interest based on the youtube video - in particular “100% Synthetic” Vs “Full Synthetic”.

I come here with specific questions - so thanks @thegreendrag0n for your help in the past - that made your handle stick in my mind.

Other than specific questions of my own, I don’t have time to spend on this forum, seriously. I have several projects to complete either its for car, computer, …

A meaningless distinction.

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For me its pathetic marketing that is approved by the court!

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@JoeMario - you had questions on warranty by AMS.
I thought that it should be answered by the provider themselves so posted their tel #. You could write down their name etc and hold them accountable in case …

I don’t think that you would be asking them for advice on competitors product!!!

For once, I think many of us can agree on this :+1:

I only buy synthetic oil when it’s on sale at Costco . . . and I stock up for all of our various vehicles

Since you’re already paying Costco membership fees, why on earth would you even consider paying the amsoil membership fees to get the preferred price . . . ?!

$60? I pay $100. I guess that’s for both of us though. The only thing I ever buy there though is the K cups. Which reminds me, I’m running low. If you want to talk cheap though, that Fleet Farm recycled oil, Citco or something, is really cheap.

Because, if I have that I drive more than 10k/yr:

  • better quality, better for my engine/car
  • long interval between oil changes
  • 100% Synthetic
  • good for the environment
  • saves money too (assuming M1 is purchased at $30/jug - you may calculate for your scenario)

I have a car that does less than 10k/yr - for this car, I have been suing M1 - instead get the Kirkland makes financial sense.

I’ll ask for the 3rd ti,me…How many vehicles have you kept for over 300k miles? How many over 200k miles? Too afraid to answer?

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I have been proud of many people in this forum who have kept their none Japanese cars by changing conventional oil every 3k. Awesome. Often, they do it themselves. I have done it but realized its messy and I did not have many tools.

AMS is authentic Synthetic oil. Its the first in the market. Full Synthetic are followers (or hybrid). AMS is a better alternative if you are driving more than 10k miles/yr. Pls do your calculations and see it makes sense to your scenario. If you are using AMS, you probably wants to get a WIX filter too.

I realized change is hard. When my co-workers were moved office cubicle in the same small office building, some had headache before the move while others had it afterwords! That’s how we are created!

That right there tells me you’ve NEVER changed oil…Tools??? You need 2 (drain plug wrench and filter wrench). Plus a pan to catch them in.

And please show me where anyone here has said they change their oil every 3k miles.

You can’t debate the facts so you just make them up. It’s called a straw-man argument. Nice try…but you’re wrong AGAIN.

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I have done the calculations and it doesn’t make sense.

Again…how many vehicles have you owned past 300k miles or 200k miles?

You keep saying that AMS is better…but all you have to prove your point is AMS marketing. You really drank the koolaid. Based on how you’re easily manipulated by marketing - I can show you videos that proves the earth is flat.