Makes sense to use what you are comfortable with.
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ā up the items In your list that Iām alright with.
I donāt know what āBEVā or āEPBā even stand for, so no comment.
Other donāt approves:
- Slits for windows
- Giant infotainment touch screens
- Rubber bands for tires mounted on wheels big & wide enough for commercial airliners..!
I am not going to tell you what they are. If you canāt use the web search engines I am not going to do it for you.
Iām sure another human being here will explain what those stand for. I try not to rely on Google or AI for everything.
Iām new here & not trying to start a fight, but you seem to think technology has never failed us & auto-makers have never lied to us. I just donāt get that.
Again: Elon lied about Teslaās capabilities. People died as a result. Even if you are āall in,ā can you see where some folks still have doubts? (And speaking as a guy whose 1st car was a Ford Pinto, I know this type of thing isnāt new).
I do not think all of these advancements are bad, but you seem to be labeling any skeptic as a ātechnophobeā.
Elon is a con man just like his buddy!
Oh for heavens sake kids, EPB is electronic parking brake. If you ever had your brake freeze in the winter, its embarrassing. BEV is battery electric vehicle which doesnt really apply to the discussion.
A real-life example (or two) of how much people rely on, or think they need, driver assist systems to successfully operate a car.
A car was a candidate for lemon law buyback. The issue was that once or twice a week the backup camera wouldnāt display on the screen.
Question: āHow does that affect your ability to safely operate the car?ā
Answer: āI need the camera to tell if Iāve pulled into the garage far enough to roll the door down.ā
A pickup owner filed for lemon law relief because the navigation system would sometimes go blue screen.
Q: āHow does that affect your ability to safely operate the vehicle?ā
A: āI was going to Costco and the nav screen went blank so I turned around and went back home.ā
Youāre pretty new here, so you may not be aware that a couple of forum members seem to distrust all new automotive technologies, and they insist that the high point of automotive technology was in the '70s & '80s. Clearly, anything can fail, and newer technologies need some time until they become extremely reliable, but some people seem to automatically reject anything that is ānewāāeven when it has been used for several years.
But, this is not a new phenomenon. When Chrysler was the first mfr to include 4 wheel hydraulic brakes in a moderately-priced car, there were people who believed that these brakes were dangerous because they stopped a car ātoo quicklyā, and b o d i l y injury would be the result of āstopping too fastā. According to my undergraduate Psych professor, in the early '50s, there was a contingent who claimed that automatic transmissions would cause a driverās left leg to atrophy, because he wasnāt using a clutch, āas G o d intendedā. ![]()
Going back much further, when steam trains were introduced, there was a fairly wide-spread belief that traveling more than 30 mph would cause our internal organs to āturn to jellyā, and even traveling at 20 mph would cause ārailway spineā and other health problems. A bit later, the introduction of electric lighting caused some people to claim that ābrain fatigueā would be the result, and that it was much healthier to use gas lighting (along with the carbon monoxide that it can produce).
Much more recently, some people avoided a certain vaccine because they believed that it contained microchips, and that a certain disease was spread via 5G technology. There is nothing wrong with āhealthyā skepticism, but the automatic rejection of anything new is an age-old human behavior that frequently has no basis in reality, and which can actually be⦠unhealthy.
Thank you bing.
Iāve heard of it referred to as āE-brakeā, yes.
Yes, Iām younger than most of you, but younger doesnāt always mean āmore acceptingā of newer technologies. Or being more competent at deciphering this new abbreviation-based language people speak these days.
you havenāt noticed the āBEVā and āHEVā badges on the trunks and hatches of many vehicles the last few years . . . ?
E brake is (or used to be anyway) an abbreviation to describe the Emergency Brake, so in short form it is called the E Brakeā¦
EPB is the acronym for electronic parking brakeā¦
Honestly I havenāt, but EVās arenāt as popular in my area of the world as others⦠I see a hand full of EVās, but mostly I know what they are from seeing them on this form from time to time, or they are Teslaās and they just have a distinct lookā¦
I see Hybrid and or PHEV on the back of some vehicles, but donāt remember seeing BEV or HEV on anyā¦
In order to make consumers more aware of the type of vehicles that they might see on the street, last year Toyota changed the model name of one of their PHEVs. The Rav-4 Prime is now the Rav-4 PHEV.
With all due respect, that could be said about most of the stuff asked on this forum, if everybody had the mentality of you need to google (or whatever search engine) it 1st, then nobody would be asking questions, and this forum would be all but uselessā¦
People use forums to ask questions cause they donāt trust search engines, or want confirmation that the search engine was correctā¦
With my simplistic mind and desire to not over-think stuff, I always lumped them together as the same thing.
In fact, among my family and friends, some call the same thing the āEmergency Brakeā, others, the āParking Brakeā(electronic or dinosaur version!)
An emergency brake and a parking brake are two different names for the exact same mechanical system in your vehicleā¦
While the industry has largely shifted to using the term āparking brakeā because its primary job is to keep a stationary vehicle from rolling, the system was historically engineered as a backup āemergencyā stopping methodā¦
I have driven vehicles with a blown out wheel cylinder while only using the E-brake to slow/stop the vehicle, to get back home or to the shopā¦
The EPB is just a means of applying the E-brake/parking brakeā¦
Thank you!
Thatās what I was trying to say in my own convoluted, effed-up way. Man if Iād spent more time outside the house as a teen learning how to talk to other people ā¦!
It is commonly referred to as a parking brake - If the hydraulics on the normal brakes fail - people are going to use the parking brake. Theyāre not (at least people with an IQ over 50) sit there and think - " Well I canāt use the parking brake because thatās only for parking".