I just saw this and don’t remember if this has been posted already or not…
Whoever’s theoretically looking at data from MY Toyota Camry’s going to be very bored 
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This case would be interesting to watch. It says the owner failed to “opt out” of the data collection. If he didn’t then Toyota would own the data coming off your car.
It begs a few questions…. If Toyota OWNS the data, can’t they then sell that data to CAS? ALL the data? Or just data but not attached to the owners identity? If part of the sale data includes the VIN, that can now be linked to the owner through public records without Toyota’s or CAS’s involvement.
Furthermore, does Toyota own the SECOND owners data? The second owner is likely given no choice to opt out or not as the first owner doesn’t care about that transfer beyond the sale. So can Toyota still collect data off the used car?
Questions, questions….
He had opted out according to the video… Didn’t read through the links though, to many words… lol
I do know that when I log into Toyota owner thingy, that I can see my odometer live as well as any check engine light info (never had a light on though), so they are probably watching my data, as boring as it is, but sometime confusing… lol
I do not pay for anything electronic for my truck, no Toyota app things…
When I worked for a forklift company, we had a wifi box we sold to catalog various things - operator lockouts, safety checks, and impacts. We intended to use it to stream data back to us, the manufacturer and were concerned about who would own that data; us or the warehouse operation that owned the trucks. And what about leases? Lots of questions.
We talked to a retired OnStar employee that said GM just included an acknowledgement of ownership of the OnStar data. People signed it without a thought and without reading it. So GM owned the data. The Toyo idea that you are IN unless you opt OUT seems fishy.
This needs to be flipped around and we should have to opt in rather than default having to opt out. Obviously, the current approach benefits the manufacturer to have it this way but I vaguely recall some other service being forced to switch to opt in to protect consumer rights.
I recall a disclaimer that caught my eye in my recent new car transaction where it said if you subscribe to their enhanced data package (e.g. maps) they also have your permission to collect data and sell it to certain “affiliated” organizations.
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Interesting issue. Once and for all data ownership needs to be determined from info in the black box that is collected regardless of any installed after market device. The dealer signed me up for Onstar and dont recall any optnin given by me for other than the standard air pressure, oil change, etc. data. Of course this all became irrelevant when they switched to 5g they couldn’t collect it anymore unless you installed an app with the cell phone. Seems to me the police could access black box data but required a court order. That suggests the data is private. Big issue and includes purchase data from walmart and others as well as camera images and plate readers.
I will say though if you are adding your own testimony you should be careful to select brake instead of break and their instead of there for credibility. Others will disagree..
Could be a state issue though. Minnesota had very severe private data laws that not all states followed. Lots of twists and turns with this whole issue and police have been prosecuted for accessing private data for potential girl friends.