As I said earlier I’ve been on my own with a 2004 Town Car and no dealer support for the last 10 years so I was really looking for other owners to give me some insights.
If you are going to Boston, you can take your car to the original Car Talk shop. What could be better than that? It’s called “The Good News” shop I think.
If I get as much use out of the Genesis as I did the Town Car I won’t need a new car til I’m 98.
Don’t think I’ll make it that long.
Stay optimistic! No reason to presume you won’t last until 98. Some US Senators remain in office to nearly that age. The current POTUS is not too far away from that age bracket.
18 years isn’t a long time?
18 years ago doesn’t seem like a very long time to geezer me … lol …
It’s a long time when you’re 80🥸
Lexus LS (when better Buicks are built, Lexus will build them).
I don’t know about others, but this very large firm near me has a significant fleet of Cadillacs:
A couple of thoughts:
This is a 3 year old car, so even though the warranty is still in effect, it is not going to cover tires or alignment.
The alignment specs the dealer would be looking at are too wide. The alignment needs to be in the inner half of the range. The dealer is not going to do that, but an alignment specialist might, but you need to ask BEFORE.
I’m going to guess the problem is the tires - a property called conicity (root word cone). Conicity values for aftermarket tires are wider than for OE tires - and you can’t basically fix tire conicity - you can only replace.
So swap the front tires side to side. If the pull changes direction, it’s 100% tires. If nothing changes, it’s 100% alignment. If the problem disappears, it’s both.
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Thanks - this is most helpful. I had not considered the tires being a significant problem with only 26K miles. All four tires are Continental ProContacts, which appear to be the standard tire delivered by Genesis.
I am looking forward to what the alignment guys find out on Monday.
Thanks for your help.
Dave
I’d rotate tires. For giggles.
In the words of a comic book villain, “Curse you Tireman, another new word to Google”.
OK - Here’s the analysis from Weber Wheel Alignment (West Palm Beach, FL): The alignment was off. But after correcting what they could, the car still drifted to the right. They then swapped the left and right tires, and that eliminated the drift.
They said the problem could have been adjusted out by CASTER adjustment, but the G80 (among many other high-end cars) did not provide for an adjustment in that plane, so swapping tires was the only option.
The really good news is that there was no structural/frame damage, so I’m happy with the vehicle.
The (expected) bad news is that when I asked the dealer to check alignment, tires, and wheel bearings, they did nothing.
Thanks everyone for your input!
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Hi Zonardave:
You’ve now confirmed that both your alignment and tires are bad.
The alignment WAS bad - the tire(s) still are☹️
It’s not just high end vehicles, a lot of vehicles on the road today only have front toe adjustments, some have rear toe/camber adjustments that only have front toe also… That is without modification or replacement of parts anyway… And just because your alignment is out doesn’t mean it will cause a pull, you can be toe out or toe in and it will not pull, we call it the silent killer cause it will eat the tires and not pull…
Maybe the problem is, checking alignment, tires, and wheel bearings can’t be done while sitting down drinking coffee and discussing the latest basketball stats … lol … Good for you for sticking w/it & getting the steering pull problem resolved.
Could be bad alignment lead to uneven wear on tires and swapping them moved the drift to the left which is compensated for now
Here’s my analysis of the problem now:
There still is an alignment problem and there still is a tire problem, but they are currently offsetting each other. The good news is that both problems are small.
My advice would be to leave things alone for now and wait for the tires to wear out. Be prepared for any rotation or new tires to have a small pull issue. Fix that when the time arrives.
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