2020 3L. Duramax timing chain replace after ~ 60k

In the customer’s defense I suspect that the problem is frequently a failure to explain what the work involves and why the additional work should be be done.

And it’s not just mechanics or tradesmen because I’ve seen the same failure from attorneys, dentists and doctors and the guilty parties all seem to share the same, “If you don’t know the reason for my price estimate or blindly follow my advice you’re obviously too stupid for my explanation” attitude.

The obvious solution is, “Here’s my estimate, it includes doing X, Y and Z and if you don’t do them now you can expect an unpleasant and expensive A in the future because…”

Not everyone will bring their business, some can’t afford it or want to spend the money but the time spent up front greatly reduces dissatisfied customers, bad reviews or payment disputes.

The hvac guy said they are having a little trouble and showed up with a trainee last time. Might have something to do with licensing and training requirements or locale. Sometimes states make it hard to fill the ranks. Way back minnesota changed their child care requirements and over night there was a huge shortage. Other occupations in the health field for example lobbied for licensing to increase rates.

Here’s more on the Duramax 3L problem:

The $10,000 3.0 Duramax Timing Chain Flaw – What GM Fixed and How to Protect Your Truck

Here’s my takeaway from that article . . .

Avoid the 2020 models LIKE THE PLAGUE

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I had a very hard time saying no to employees and customers until I had children. If I could say no to my kids, I could say no to anyone.

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My takeaway has always been to avoid the newest model year anything’s, give them a couple/few years to (hopefully) work out all the bugs, let others be the guinea pig…

I used to say (or mostly thought to myself), I have a wife and daughter, your pouty lips don’t bother me at all, I have no problem saying No… :laughing:

Yup

Working in the trades WILL ruin your body

Might take a few decades

But it will eventually happen

… and–maybe–at least one of your senses. One of our neighbors many years ago worked in a boiler factory, before the days of required hearing protection, and he became almost totally deafened by working there.

I’ve been watching reruns of Fantomworks, and I’m surprised how little ear protection those guy wore when grinding, etc. Gotta hurt their hearing. I’d think there were a number of OSHA violations most episodes.

All my summer jobs in college involved manual labor. I worked in a Lexan furniture factory, a drywall installation business, and as a steel mill laborer. At the end of each summer, I was happy to get back to college.

That’s not always the case. One of my fraternity brothers is from Brooklyn and quit college to work as a shipboard HVAC mechanic. He was a member of a strong union and the pay was great. The worst thing he had to do was make an emergency trip to a ship at sea, but they had to be close enough to the Port of New York that he could get to the ship by helicopter.

Your senses are part of your body, imo

So when I said ruin your body, that might include tinnitus, various forms of arthritis, hearing loss, carpal tunnel syndrome. neuropathy, etc.

Do this long enough and you’ll check ALL of those boxes and then some

Some still want to. My son is in the UW College of Engineering and spending his summer working for a construction/remodeling contractor. He’s really enjoying it and constantly talking about how much money some guys can make and how much he wants to be the guy in charge one day. I asked him if he still remembers his first soccer goal when he was 6. I told him I didn’t because I was working that Saturday. Does he really want to be that guy?

My dad was an international freight forwarder, self-employed for a great deal of his career. When I was little he would come home for dinner, then go back to the office for another 5-6 hours. Spend all day drumming up business and then all night processing it. White collar people can work too much too.

I’m sure I can find a number of OSHA violations anywhere in any shop. Truth is most mechanics are a little too independent to be told what to wear or how to work.

The shop and everything in it is bad for your health in the long run

But it’s good, honest work and people leave me the heck alone when they see i know what I’m doing

Beats riding desk, imo

I’m sure that’s true, but they’re not on national TV providing the evidence…

Our mechanic back in the 60s & 70s used to clean brakes with big shots of compressed air, and even though he allowed me in the shop, I quickly learned to stay outside when he was doing brake work.

Makes for good viewing. No one wants to see everything done by the book…:grinning:

On the inground lifts, it is normal to wedge a used wheel weight in the air valve handle to lower the rack without keeping your hands on it…

We had an air hose blow on an overhead real, work frowned on ladders and we needed the air hose, my plan was to stack a set of wheels/tires on top of a toolbox and climb up on the stack in order to replace the air hose, it worked like a charm…

I have been the poster child of OSHA violations at times in the past…

When time is money you have to do what you have to do, to get the job done…

The operative word there is SOME.

I worked as an engineering manager for the past 15+ years for various companies. My average work week was 60+ hours. Extremely rare to work under 50 hours. Many weeks working 80+ hours. But I was never ever as tired as my dad was doing a physically demanding job he had. Sitting behind a desk is NOT the same as swinging a hammer all day- this was before the air-guns used by most general contractors today.

Ok ill go take a shower or was it something i said? I hav3 no idea how what i said was offensive and off topic from sll the other comments here.

The original post was a video by robert. There would be about five posts related specifically and the pages of blanks with the same criteria. No wonder few people come here anymore.