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2003 Toyota Tacoma Issue

Hello Everyone,

I recently purchased a 2003 Toyota Tacoma 2WD (4 cyl. 2.4L) automatic truck. It has 121,000 miles on it. I obviously have no idea how the person before me filled their tank (topping it off or not). I filled the gas tank a couple of times myself with no issues whatsoever. Then I used Sea Foam in the tank on a full tank (per the directions). Now when I go to fill it up-the pump cuts off every few seconds. I am not seeing any other symptoms--no gas smell, no reduced gas mileage, no hesitation, no CEL. I have read the discussions on-line and on this site regarding "slow fill" and charcoal/evaporation canisters. My question is this: is it likely that a canister would appear to be (and perform) absolutely fine and then go bad that suddenly? or.... Is it perhaps more likely that the Sea Foam cleaned some stuff out and somehow some debris or whatever got stuck in the breather line or a valve or something? It seems a bit coincidental to me that this started to happen right after I added the Sea Foam.

Any advice on what the problem may be and how to check for issues other than just replacing the charcoal canister (or whatever) would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

-Scott
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  • I can't access the specific test protocols for your Tacoma, but here's some for another Toyota productof the same vintage. Perhaps they'll help. Or, you could ask the parts department (NOT the service department) at your local dealer's to print the test protocols for your truck.
    http://tijil.org/Scion_Docs/Scion_06_misc_docs/2007sciontc_ncf Folder/2azfeemi.pdf

    By the way, have you chacked for stored fault codes? That'd be the best place to start.
  • Thank you for your response I appreciate it. No I have not checked for stored fault codes. How do I check for the codes. Can the auto parts store do that or can I do that myself? Sorry, I am kind of new to this.
  • No apology necessary. Most parts stores will download the codes for free. One simply attaches a "code reader" to an output jack and the "reader" does the work. The code will look like one of the below (these are just examples).

    * DTC P0446 EVAP Vent Solenoid Valve Control System
    * DTC P0447 Evaporative Emission Control System Vent Control Circuit Open
    * DTC P0448 Evaporative Emission Control System Vent Control Circuit Shorted
    * DTC P0449 Evaporative Emission (EVAP) Vent Solenoid Control Circuit
    * DTC P0450 Fuel Tank Pressure Sensor Circuit
    * DTC P0451 Evaporative Emission Control System Pressure Sensor Range/Performance
    * DTC P0452 Fuel Tank Pressure Sensor Circuit Low Voltage
    * DTC P0453 Fuel Tank Pressure Sensor Circuit High Voltage
    * DTC P0454 Evaporative Emission Control System Pressure Sensor Intermittent
    * DTC P0455 Evaporative Emission (EVAP) System Leak Detected
    * DTC P0460 Fuel Level Sensor Circuit
    * DTC P0461 Fuel Level Sensor Performance
    * DTC P0462 Fuel Level Sensor Circuit Low Voltage
    * DTC P0463 Fuel Level Sensor Circuit High Voltage

    I should have mentioned before that it is possible that the root caues was the previous owner "topping it off". On some vehicles, "topping off" the vehicle can allow gas to get into the vent line, which vents right by the fill pipe, and down into the charcoal bed. Since nothing can breath well through a saturated bed, the loss of pressure will be "read" by the pump handle as a full tank (as if the fill valve has been closed) and the handle will shut off.
  • Thank you for your response and explanation--and the examples.

    I had read that about people "topping off" causing issues with the charcoal canister. I am really hoping that it is a blockage or something similar as opposed to the charcoal canister (not a cheap fix--as I am sure you are aware). If the charcoal has been saturated does it ever dry out (or whatever)?

    Do you have any idea if there is any explanation as to what would cause it to be working fine and then suddenly start the pump kicking off--literally the same day?
  • edited March 2013
    Once saturated, I'm not aware of any way of drying the bed out. The canisters unfortunately are sealed.

    The only think I can think of is that the seafoam might have somehow gotten into the canister. I tried unsuccessfully to come up with other ideas. Seafoam is designed to clean out carbon deposits, and charcoal is basically carbon. I don't know what seafoam would do to a charcoal bed.
  • Thanks for trying to come up with something. I am hoping that the Sea Foam did not get in there. : (
  • Thanks. I already had to replace the ac condensor replaced and I have only had the thing for 2 weeks. Not the most fun I have ever had.
  • Let us know how you make out wth this. EVAP system problems can be a pain.
  • Will do. I am still hoping for a blockage in the fill line or vent--that is what some folks on a Toyota Tacoma forum suggested the issue is. I am not overly optimistic however.

    Out of curiosity--what happens if I do not fix this for a while?
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