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metal shavings in my transmission

VW America has replaced my transmission three times. 10 July 09, 28 Oct 09 and 07 Dec 09. I am about to take it back again for the same problem and would LOVE to have some ideas about what is actually causing the problem. My last invoice reads "Auto transmission differential noise verified concern test drove vehicle found noise coming from auto transmission rear differential. call tech line. remove auto transmission rear differential oil pan and check oil contaminated with metal send photos to tech. remove and replace transmission. test drove re check noise okay at this time. I have gotten almost rude about asking what is causing it and can't get an answer. The transmissions get sent back to VW America and taken apart, but the dealership tells me they don't get told where the metal shavings are coming from.


  • edited April 2010
    I share your confusion. There is no reason a transmission should be replaced 3 times in the space of 6 months. Are you sure your transmission was actually replaced? This almost sounds like a con game. I may be wrong but something smells fishy here. Have you thought about taking your Golf to an independent transmission mechanic? Transman....where are you?
  • edited April 2010
    The problem is defective transaxles..The solution is obvious..
  • edited April 2010
    You do not specify what type of Golf, year and mileage, or if first owner.

    Check your states' Lemon Law...You might qualify for a buy back from VOA, given you had taken it back 3 different times for the same issue.
    Personally, I would never keep such a car. If this is a new car under warranty and this is a hassle, just wait until the warranty expires and then it becomes an EXPENSIVE hassle.
  • edited April 2010
    To be honest, there's not enough info known to make any kind of guess at all but are you absolutely, dead certain, without a doubt whatsoever, that this transmission has actually been replaced 3 times?
    If the original transmission was trashed and IF the converter was not changed/cleaned and IF the cooling lines were not flushed out then it's possible for a new transmission to become contaminated by debris.

    You refer to "remove and replace" transmission. In mechanicspeak that is referred to as R & R and it does NOT necessarily mean the transmission was actually replaced; only that it was taken out and reinstalled. Any chance of misinterpretation here?

    As far as I know transmissions do not get sent back to VWOA at all. That's all handled on the dealership level.
    VWOA is NOT going to replace transmissions every other month under warranty. The service rep is going to be heavily involved the first go around, much less the second and third.

    As a first step I suggest you contact VWOA and ask them to verify whether what you're being told by the dealer is true. Ask for warranty claim documentation to prove this.
  • edited April 2010
    I certainly hope this is all being done under warranty.

    I can't offer an explanation, but here's a suggestion: Plan to sell or trade this Golf a few months and a few thousand miles BEFORE the warranty expires.

    I'd also consider checking out the 'Lemon Law' statutes in your state.
  • edited April 2010
    I am sure they put a "new" transmission in (it may have been rebuilt, but it was not the same transmission) I am 100 percent sure of this because I was working with a non dealership garage on this also when it started making the noise again I took it there and he said "look at that nice new shiny transmission". I keep taking it back to the dealership because I bought it there and it's still under warranty until August 2011. I have not paid for any of these new transmissions.
  • edited April 2010
    2001 Golf TDI. I am the original owner. I bought it from the dealership I am taking it to. I still have my original PO. I consulted an online atty re lemon law and they didn't want to touch it due to the fact I bought it in 2001.
    I don't want to keep this car if it can't be corrected. I have said many times at $4000 a pop for the transmissions it will soon become cheaper for them to either cut me a check or give me a new car.
  • edited April 2010
    I don't know if they are lying to me about what happens with the transmissions they take out. I have the invoices and I have had another VW garage look and tell me they are "new" (could be rebuilt but new to my car)

    Thanks, but what I really am looking for is ideas about what mechanically is causing there to be metal shavings in the transmission. I know it would be a great help if I could say where the shavings are coming from, but I can't get that information no matter how many times I ask.
  • edited April 2010
    This is definately a mfg'r problem. As soon as VW will no longer replace your transmission under warranty you must sell this car. Once you start paying for this transmission work you'll go broke.

    This car fits my definition of a "Lemon". VW should either replace these transmissions for the life of the car or buy it back and send it to the crusher.
  • edited April 2010
    My first choice is for some really smart person to figure this out and fix it so I can safely drive my car to 200000 miles (it only has 66000 on it) It can run on biodiesel and gets 40 miles to the gallon. It has not had any of the electrical problems VWs are known for.

    My second choice would be for the dealership to give me a check and part this thing out so NO ONE has to drive an unsafe vehicle. Needless to say I will NEVER own another VW.

    My third choice will be consulting an attorney regarding warranty law.

    I don't want to think about dumping this on someone else because that just sucks.
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