And where do you get that ?
CVTs have been around considerably longer than 5 years. I seem to remember someone using a CVT back in the late 1800s which was used to run a mill or something and was eventually fitted to cars.
My son bought a new Dodge back in 2007 which had a CVT and had no issues.
As for longevity I’d say a manual is far less trouble prone than any automatic unless someone is beating it up with poor shifting habits or gnashing gears because of faulty clutch operation. Simply because of far fewer working parts.
Yep, I have always had far less trouble with manual transmissions than automatic. Only vehicle that had issues was more about the clutch being likely way under engineered for the lackluster power on my 1985 5.0 Mustang. Clutch needed replacing at 24000 miles. I am at 190000 or so miles on my Miata on the original clutch with no transmission work ever having been done, other than me replacing the rubber noise and temperature barrier boot on the shifter.
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Like you implied… it’s a cult following, regardless of quality.
That’s how companies like Range Rover and Mercedes stay in business.
Pretty much all the Europeans too, IMHO.
No Lee.They really truly failed. Don’t know the internal mechanical description of the failures. But there was no doubt. And the clutch was relatively recent vintage, and not slipping nor refusing to disengage. And I treated the trannies with TLC. Smooth shifting, no hot rodding, etc.
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What happened when they failed? One or more synchros could have failed and you’d have a crunching sound when shifting. A bearing could have failed and you’d have a constant noise.
It was more than 20 years ago, Lee.
I’m not sure I can remember what I had for breakfast three days ago.
Any of those symptoms sound sound s bit familiar.
I think I recall in one case it got jammed and locked in second gear. Or on the other hand maybe it refused to get into second gear.
Point was I had two standard transmissions that been had been treated with tender loving care do major failure at modest milage…way below miles most automatics usually go trouble free for even without TLC.
I have never experienced transmission failure with any of my automatic trans cars, even at odometer mileages as high as 140k miles. By contrast, my Chevy Citation had to have its 4-speed manual trans rebuilt–under warranty, luckily–at ~9k miles.
Admittedly, my sample for manual trans cars is much smaller than for automatic trans cars, but…
I’ve never had a transmission fail in either automatic or manuals in 40+ years now. My sample definitely leans to manual, have only had two automatic transmission vehicles.
Wow 24K miles, I hope it was still under warranty. That is so aggravating, you know the bean counters said to pull the clutch for the 4 cylinder out of the parts bin. This is what motivates buyers to vote with their wallets and lose Ford brand loyalty. Too bad because there’s so much to like about the Mustang.
There might be forum members out there more familiar with MTs but it sounds like at least one of your synchos fell apart and probably left pieces of metal at the bottom of the case. I would guess that the manufacturer used synchros of inferior metal.
Many people love Hondas, I’ve never been a fan. My friend bought a new sport edition Accord with a 6 speed manual and one of the gears had a soft crunch on downshift. Good luck getting that fixed under warranty. The person who test drove it at the factory should have had them replace the transmission before it left the factory. I bought a new BMW motorcycle that had the same problem, they changed the grease and told me it would work itself in.