Why would some countries continue to ban drivers with disabilities?

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A lot of your references are not valid… First off, I wrote, “If they have a vehicle registered in their name, it too must carry that state’s registration/title.” Your reference is for “You may be able to register your car if your driver’s license is from a different state.” And to validate my statement, you reference addresses “Part-Time” Residents, which is a whole different set of rules and even them it says, “You may…”

Next, I wrote, “If you are driving around in a car that is not licensed/titled in your state of residency, you have a very good chance that your coverage will be denied if you are in an accident…” which is true, Insurances companies that have subscribers who claim locations where the insurance rates are cheaper consider this fraud as your rates are based on the risk of driving in your actual location, not some imaginary “fairyland of no -accidents…”

So, go ahead tell you’re your insurance agent that you want change your vehicle’s Garaged location to Manchester, New Hampshire, because the rates are cheaper there…

Next, none of what I wrote has anything to do with Snowbirds who keep their residency in New Hampshire and vacation down in Florida or folks who keep their residency in Florida and vacation in the summer in New Hampshire… (FYI… Some do that as Florida has not state income tax…).

Finally, as you wrote, "When I got back from Nam I bought a car in my home state of NY while on leave and drove to my next permanent duty station in KY. Never changed my driver’s license or car registration. Perfectly legal.

Thank you for validating what I wrote… Of course it was legal and that is exactly what I wrote, you followed the Two State Rule, the Soldiers’ and Sailors’ Civil Relief Act, allows all military to maintain their home of record’s driver’s license and registration… You drove your NYS registered vehicle with your NYS Driver’s license to your next duty station…

BTW:.. I too was a New York State Resident when I joined the Air Force and NY allows the military member’s driver license to remain valid for the duration of their military service as long as NYS is their home of record… I joined in 1971 and kept my NY License for about 15-years, but the old paper license with all the “Required” change of addresses started looking raged and I went ahead and got a driver’s license at the state that I was stationed in…

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No, I only want you to clearly state the facts.

What state is your driver’s license issued in?

And, What state is your vehicle registered/titled in?

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Reply Both WI, including insurance.

Bad eye was 20/100. for previous confusion what should look 20 feet away looks 100. in that eye. It can seem a confusing nomenclature as the first 20 is dropped so 20/20 assumes 20/20 for both eyes but real numbers would be 20/20 and 20/20. I was never denied WI CDL. Only had trouble when transferring a license in FL from ND.

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Regarding driving with disability in the USA. I have observed someone in a wheelchair who used a remote control to get into his van. The person didn’t move but used some sort of a remote. Got inside and drove away. Obviously disabled with a driver’s license.

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For active duty military “home state” is designated for voting and income tax purposes.

If you change your DL you should then change your residency. When I was transferred to FL, I did that, obtain DL, there was some form I had to sign and swear too at the court house to affirm I was now a FL resident. Then registered to vote in FL, details are fuzzy, this was in the 70s. When transferred to CA my vehicle was licensed in FL, when I bought a different car in CA, the car was licensed in CA, but I retained my FL DL, all perfectly legal.

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Just because someone gets in a vehicle and drives away does not mean they have a DL… just saying… lol

Yes, I am on permanent disability with a current DL…

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One thing I never understood was, I can’t wear headphones because I may not hear emergency vehicles, yet deaf people can drive not being able to hear anything. Just a thought.

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Being deaf sucks. It truly is. I wasn’t born deaf but rather eventually lost my hearing due to a genetic disease. I’ve had emergency vehicles yelled at me for not responding promptly to their commands. And when that happens, I freaked out, like really freaked out. Thankfully, the fire trucker and police officers are aware of us deafies on the road, and once they learned I am deaf, they show sympathy and understanding.

Having said this, I don’t think hearing is necessarily needed for driving safety. Since my bad experiences with emergency vehicles, my awareness around the wheels has improved drastically, from periodically checking rear view mirror, enter intersection with extreme caution, and keep to the right when driving ( except for when passing other vehicles).

I haven’t ran into any issues with emergency vehicles in awhile now.

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Please read my post again. This person was not just “driving away”. He was in a wheelchair and wasn’t moving at all but used a remote control for everything. Ever heard of this?
Using wheelchair qualified him for the disability.

Back in the day when I worked in a nursing home, we had a patient who was a quad (quadriplegic) and couldn’t move. But he operated his wheelchair thru a mouthpiece.

Yep, things happen and disabled people can drive a car using technology.

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Hand controls

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Deaf people don’t Head Bang to the Music…

They concentrate on their driving rather than the Music…

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They might, at least some of them.

When I was a teenager, our pastor’s son was a page for the US Congress. This meant that he went to the page school. The pages were playing football against Gallaudet College, an institution for the deaf. He was in the pep band. They noticed that the sideline staff communicated with the players using a bass drum. The pages decided to use their bass drum to interrupt these communications.

So, if the Gallaudet team used a bass drum to communicate, then deaf people could head bang to the bass line in music.

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I understood your post, you just missed my point that just because he was able to control the vehicle, by remote control or whatever, does not mean he had a DL… Lots of drivers out there driving without a DL for one reason or another… I never said that he didn’t have a DL, just that him driving does not automatically mean he does…

Yes some vehicles are retrofitted with joy stick controls…

I saw a show about a guy driving a special built race car on a race track at high speeds with lots of curves, by using only a mouth control or something like that, 100% had no use of any part of his body from the neck down, it was amazing, dude was doing burn outs and donuts and what not… and this was years ago, so with the use of self driving cars and tech, I’m sure the tech is even better now a days…

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I assume that he has a DL while disabled. End of story.

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Back in the late '60s, while I was working at a Ford dealership, a paraplegic young woman bought a new Ford Falcon and had the hand controls installed. But she was having difficulties with not being strong enough to comfortably work the hand control on the brakes so we installed power brakes on her Falcon. Granting a license to a person with disabilities that might hamper the safe operation of a vehicle is based on the severity of the disability and whether the person can safely operate a vehicle…

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Probably because when one loses a sense or never had one the other senses overcompensate. So a deaf person would be hyper vigilant in a car. A person just wearing headsets doesn’t develop that capability.

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I never saw it myself but a reliable source reported an elderly lady in town driving using binoculars to see the road. Driving one handed is dangerous.

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I imagine the one handed is dangerous since your hand is probably at the 12 o’clock position and if the air bag went off it would drive your arm into your face at what, 200-mph (airbag opening speed…).

The recommended steering wheel hand position of 9 and 3 o’clock is safer than the older 10 and 2 position because it reduces the risk of injury if the airbag deploys.

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When I was a kid, there was a morbidly-obese guy in my town who couldn’t fit his gut behind the steering wheel, so he somehow sat facing the driver’s side window. That meant his forward view while driving was very much restricted, as he couldn’t turn his head far enough to the right to have a full view of the road.

I have no idea how he fit his left leg between the seat and the door, and I doubted the stories that I had heard until I finally saw him driving his '57 Plymouth. Somehow, the cops allowed him to keep driving, and most likely that was because nobody could figure out what offense to charge him with.

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I don’t drive with both hands on the wheels.

I feel more in control with just one hand on the wheels.