Vehicle fire arms laws from state to state

It’s easy to believe that some trade-ins are sold overseas. Once the vehicles are on a boat, there is no telling where they might end up.

It’s helps if you are a Caucasian over 40. Don’t even think about bringing a firearm into Canada or Mexico…

^Don’t people from the US have hunting camps in CA? Didn’t know you could fell a Caribou with a slingshot…

(Sarcasm) Teacher’s are all such experts at gun safety. This must be the same dillusional thinking that wants to arm them. Too many poor solutions to a real problem cloud the issue.

Yes, laws vary quite a bit from state to state. Missouri has one of the better series of laws for firearms in your car. You can carry a loaded gun in your car, boat, tent, or other vehicle or form of habitation without a permit. Besides that you can carry pretty much anywhere besides schools, post offices, and most government buildings with a concealed carry permit. Open carry has also been relaxed here although I don’t like how some people feel they need to make a point and carry an AR-15 or AK-47 through downtown St. Louis. Sure, it may be legal but doesn’t exactly make some people too happy and can work against gun owners.

Be sure to review various state laws when traveling. Illinois is not nearly as nice as MO with regards to gun laws.

And, you have to expect that a state like ours which depends upon tourism as it’s major industry and supports out of state hunting and fishing, should have different laws then other states.

speaking of a “need” to pack heat on a trip . . .

One of my former colleagues said he didn’t feel safe in a national park . . . I forget which one . . . without his guns

Maybe he had some bad experiences in the past, but a national park is about the last place I would expect to run into trouble that required a gun to solve

Although there was an incident a few years ago, where a couple of sheriff’s deputies got drunk and pulled guns on each other at some campground. The “funny” thing was that these guys didn’t know each other, and didn’t know that they were both deputies. Don’t know what happened to them. I assume they got disciplined and/or fired

Grizzlies…

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You have a point . . . but my colleague said he didn’t feel safe around other people in the national park, if he couldn’t have his guns with him

In addition to the whole animal problems, most of the parks are pretty good size and lonely places. There aren’t a lot of rangers patrolling them anymore, and you are pretty much on your own. Plus anyone can get into a park and there are no background checks of the clientele. Not like the big city where you can run next door for help.

Are we degenerating away from being a civilized society? If/when everyone is packing a pistol I won’t feel safer.

Grizzlies ? We have an expression. If you expect to save your self from a grizzly with a handgun, you will need only one bullet; for yourself. It took five well placed rounds from a 30.06 to put down an enraged black bear by a friend who was hunting and got between the bear and cub. A grizzly and a hand gun ? Might as well throw sawdust in his eyes or play Milli Vanilly on your Ipad to drive him off then depend on any hand gun you could carry concealed. Surprisingly, one of the best items to drive off wild life is to carry a umbrella and open it suddenly in front of them. Maybe not a grizzly. :wink: but, I do often carry a folding umbrella in my pack when hiking. It works !

Smith & Wesson revolver in .500 magnum…

“Are we degenerating away from being a civilized society?”

Well I’m searching for the correct term but don’t think I’ll find it. Maybe one of our Sociologists will have the term. But I think what has been happening is that the the mores have been changing. What used to be unacceptable or even unthinkable behavior, has now become possible and acceptable for the fringe of our society. In the 50’s, school shootings, home invasions, random murders, be-headings, and on and on, were just not something thought about and publicized. We had the guns and means but not the lack of values. We could rob banks and stores and steal cars and beat people up, but just never ever thought about shooting a bunch of kids. Until these become unacceptable again, I think we have an obligation to protect ourselves and other innocents.

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And who will carry it ? Your porter ?

I have seen an old video of a safari that showed a guide shooting a charging elephant and dropping it with a single shot from a double barrel express rifle. And while the calibre was extreme I always thought that a great deal of the success of the shot was the nerve of that man to stand there and wait for the animal to get close enough to present an opportunity for a kill shot before firing. Standing your ground until a charging bull elephant is 50 feet away and closing is way beyond my consideration. I hope his customers appreciated his efforts.