Used car or truck purchase

Do you think airbags in the head rests would have helped?

Do you think that airbags airbags are only in the head rests ??

I ask because you have been here for around 6 years.

There aren’t airbags in the head rests, what sort of airbag will reduce the impact in a rear-end collision?

A steering wheel or dash mounted airbag will not deploy in a rear-end collision, force from the rear cannot be reduced by a punch in the face.

I had a bud rear ended in the Monroe street parking garage in chicago, rear ender hit their car, he bounced forward, cracked the windsheild with his head, then when their car got pushed so bad it hit the car in front, then airbags deployed, a lot can happen in a few seconds.

I wouldn’t want the airbag to deploy while my head was pressed against the windshield, something is amiss here.

Basic thing, air bags to not deploy for a rear end collision, but rear ended then causing a front collision caused the airbags to deploy (ps formerly waterboy due to inability to keep my name in previous website iterations as seen in this topic)

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The rebound from a rear collision shouldn’t result in a restrained person hitting the windshield. Windshields break from airbag deployment, occupants may misinterpret a broken windshield as head impact but it is usually caused by the airbags.

A couple of years ago, I posted a picture of myself standing next to a nicely-restored Hudson pickup truck from the '40s. Now that was a nice truck!

Hudson trucks were never a common sight, and now they are rarely seen. Needless to say, they are not as rare as 4-door Pintos, but they are definitely rare at this point. :wink:


Wow, glad the car didn’t burst into flames and/or cause your death. That’s a big hit, especially for the compact Pinto.

That seems to contradict the thought that these cars were the death traps the lawyers wanted you to believe.


Does Tridaq still have his 78 Olds? Maybe he’d sell it to you.

You are right.

Seems like a hit at that speed would have ruptured the fuel tank.

Though Pintos were money pits. I bought mine new.

Within 2 years:

  1. All four window knobs had broken off

  2. Went thru 2 or 3 starter motors

  3. Replaced 2 or 3 flywheels (I think that is what they were called)

  4. thermostat stuck and I had to rebuild engine

On the good side, my dad taught me how to rebuild an engine. :slight_smile:

Ah, the good old days . . .

Amazing that some guys pine for those days of yore :smiley:

@bscar2. You have a good memory. I sold the 1978 Oldsmobile almost 6 years ago-- not long after I retired. By today’s standards, it was simple. It didn’t have power windows or power door locks. It did have power steering and power brakes as well as air conditioning and an automatic transmission. It had an AM only radio, no rear window defroster, no air bags, no clock. The engine had a two barrel carburetor and no computers. My 1965 Rambler was even more basic–three speed manual transmission, no windshield washer and no backup lights. There were no door switches to turn on the interior lights when the doors were opened. There wasn’t even an outside rear view mirror. Even more basic was my 1947 Pontiac. It didn’t have turning signals. There was a.floor.pedal to operate the starter. Depressing the pedal pushed the starter drive into the flywheel and closed the starter switch. For a really basic car, I recommend the King Midget. The basic model came with a one cylinder Wisconsin air cooled engine with a recoil rope.starter.

In case you did not know there is a King Midget web site and they have a yearly get together and show.

Think earlier. Airbags were already coming in by the early 90’s. You’ve actually got a fairly narrow window between carburetors and airbag. You’re probably looking between, say, '87 and '92.

Want a fun one? Get a 1988-1991 Honda CRX. Fuel injected, no airbags, really simple to work on, and an absolute blast to drive. If you can find one in decent shape you’ll love it.

I suggest a GEO METRO! I have two and they are about as simple as they come. Get the 1989-1994 era. Anything older is the Chevy Sprint and that is hard to find parts for. 1995 and newer start to get more complex. Basically these are great little reliable cars if you take care of them but are complete death traps in an accident. You have no antilock brakes, no airbags, and nothing that can be hacked. They have a simple throttle body fuel injection system and get 50+ mpg. It is a tin can can on wheels but a very dependable one if you take care of it. Get a 3 cylinder.

You want to watch for RUST. They didn’t make these to resist rust well so get underneath with a flashlight before buying one and look for rotted out floor pans and structural components. The other issue is that they were cheap car to start with so many people never changed the oil. They just added oil. The engines actually are made pretty tight and don’t hold up well to neglect so stick valves, rings, and the like. Give the engine a basic once over and make sure they run well. If it smokes and burns oil either avoid that one or plan to rebuild it as it will burn valves. That is a weak link especially if they burn oil. Check for no or very low compression on one cylinder if you are worried. The 3 cyl runs lopsided from new so the odd idle is normal.

Seriously, they are about as simple as it gets and there is plenty of room under the hood to work. I can even use the oil filter for these things on my riding mowers.

You will never fall in love with such a basic and cheap car that was designed to be a throwaway from the start. The Suzuki Swift of that era is the same car as well. They even made a convertible.

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With no turn signals, did you use hand signals ?

Sounds like the King Midge was a regular speed demon ?

Wiki does not list top speed.

It had no speedometer, but how fast could a 1 cylinder go.

@andrew_kennedy7 I ordered a turning signal kit from the Montgomery Ward catalogue for my 1947 Pontiac. It included the turning signal switch, replacement sockets with dual filament bulbs for the parking lights, wiring and complete instructions. The switch was mounted on the steering column and had a little rubber roller that rubbed against the hub of the steering wheel which allowed the signals to be self cancelling. I don’t think new cars were required to be equipped with turn signals until 1956.

With the Pinto you’re lucky to be alive.

I actually own a 1995 Dodge Ram WT RWD (base model) with V6. Bought it new. This is about as basic as it gets for a 90’s truck. Has a/c, cruise, stereo, auto trans. No power windows or door locks. Manual seat. Currently 127k (I don’t drive it much). The most major mechanical issues were replacing the timing gears and the steering box (total of $1200). If you don’t need to pull a trailer or regularly haul heavy loads this will be adequate. Don’t expect any tire smoking burnouts with 175hp trying to move 2 tons of truck. Trouble is finding one that hasn’t been abused and/or has high mileage.

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