If we’re discussing car tunes this one needs to be remembered
and where the ‘risque’ scenes came from I don’t have a clue but these days it’s PG-13 I guess.
In “Death of a Salesman” by Arthur Miller, Willy Loman says about Chevrolet: “The government ought to prohibit the manufacturing of that automobile”. Apparently, Willy had a to pay $7 for a carburetor repair on his 1928 Chevrolet. Banning the Mercedes-Benz makes about as much sense.
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Is the Mercedes Benz about to be banned @Triedaq? While I lean more to the left than the current administration I have for many decades slammed Washington for allowing the world to ship their cars here while our cars were and are very difficult for would be owners in foreign countries to buy. I was in Japan 50 years ago and was told how popular the Mustang was there but buying one was similar to buying plutonium.
I have my doubts as to the likely success of the current administration’s ‘international tough guy’ persona but if he fails the situation will self correct in a relatively short time. Mercedes Benz and Audi will most likely pull through.
@Rod_Knox. My problem with owning a Mercedes Benz is that the closest dealer is 60 miles away. A good friend bought a new Mercedes 240 D back in 1977. He and his wife would make a special outing to go to the Mercedes dealer 60 miles away,.leave the car be serviced,.have an afternoon of shopping, have a fancy meal, pick up the Mercedes, go to the theater and eventually drive.back home. Mrs. Triedaq and.I drop our Toyota off.at the dealer, walk over to McDonald’s for a meal,.rent a.DVD and go home. My friend’s wife confided in Mrs.Triedaq that they bought the Mercedes because the credit union would finance the entire price of the Mercedes Benz because the depreciation was so low.
I have no concern for Audi and Mercedes. I’m concerned about every American paying thousands more for cars because of all the different aspects of the tariffs being imposed. Aluminum and steel go into every car, many components are imported, all are going up because of the tariffs. Exports of US cars will drop as a result, putting Americans out of work. A lose-lose-lose situation!
I think the fact that every carmaker, foreign AND domestic, is against the tariffs is important. If tariffs are bad for GM and Ford, who are the helping?
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And yes, @Triedaq, financing an import here might be simpler and easier than financing a Ford while it was impossible in Tokyo when I was there. In 1968 there was a Toyota dealership in this small town of <30,000 at the time while buying a Ford in Tokyo required paying for it up front and having it shipped individually at an outrageous cost and then individually inspected and certified by the Japanese equivalent of the DOT here to make sure it was safe. America’s trade situation has been totally stupid for decades and maybe the current effort to make changes will result in some benefit to US but I’m doubtful
It’s not that easy. The problem is more that USA does not make cars that fit the European market and we have different opinions of quality. Here in DK (remember, I’m old school) a Volvo was/is considered a big car and you had money to spend and it’s the same today with regards to size.
As another example: Once upon a time there was something called a Daewoo Matiz, it was the cheapest car on the market and a big seller. Then around -02 Gm bought the brand. That did not do the car any good. It was still the cheapest car, but the quality was even worse and the sales plummeted.
It won’t do me any good that I can buy a car that I’ll have to travel umpteen miles to get repaired/serviced when I can buy something not american locally and get better quality (from my point of view) and service.
If I should make a list of cars up to - at least ten - interesting for me for a daily driver, not one american car would be on it, but not because of the price. They are many times cheaper than a competitor. Size, economy, serviceability would be the main factors.
For daily transport for me a Toyota Aygo/Peugeot 108/Citron C1 - same car - would do fine,
but I don’t believe any American would like to be seen dead in one of those.
It’s not a simple question, but the answers are even more complicated.
All the best
Like I said before, are you sure you folks want to go there? You would be happier with the alternative? Are you sure or just mad? But really quoting CNN? The only thing I go to CNN for anymore is the stock market updates and only because its bookmarked.
I’ve been to Europe a number of times as well as Scandinavia, Turkey, Israel, Greece, etc. I can’t recall ever seeing an “American” car or bus. I’m sure there were some but I never saw any that I can remember. Lots of German, French, English, and Italian cars but not American. Why do you suppose that is? I always thought it was the size and quality. On the other hand, the Norwegian relatives love to collect American cars-Fords and Chevs, but they store them.
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You forgot to mention Japanese and South Korean cars. Those countries are big here also. 
Yeah and I think he still is but just has less hair now. Hasn’t learned a thing. I was going to say something about Pee Wee Herman but back to cars instead.
I remember when our Governor took on the South Dakota Governor way back. It was great fun but it did bite a little, so being from both states, its better to not start a war again. They called him Governor Goofy and other names but the funny thing is people come from South Dakota all the time to shop at the Mall of America that he created. So ya gotta be a little careful when you call someone nuts. They just might be operating at a whole different level.
I am often reminded these days of an observation Bertrand Russell noted long ago re people’s certainty on issues. Maybe I can find it. It would be terrible to misquote him.
I lived in europe for many years . . .
And the american vehicles that WERE offered for sale there did not compare very well to the local competition
Not very well at all . . .
Instead of offering their best for sale, it seems as if they were offering their garbage for sale in europe
I’m not sure what american vehicles are currently offered for sale in europe . . . but when I was there, it was a joke
When there are very few american cars for sale in europe, and those few include the Dodge Neon, Chrysler LeBaron and the Chevrolet Corsica, that’s a joke, in my
I’m just calling it as I see it
And now I’ll be equal opportunity and slam another country
I think when Hyundai was selling their 1986 Excel in the USA, sure they were selling a lot of vehicles, but it also ensured they had a reputation for selling garbage. As far as I know, it took them a few years to change their image. I’m well aware that their current vehicles are just about as good as Toyota and Honda, but many people, including myself, remember the garbage they used to peddle. And even in the late 1990s and early 2000s, their products weren’t that great. It was only in the last few years that they seem to have hit their stride, in my opinion.
Your opinion of Hondas Toyotas and Subarus isn’t sullied by the quality of the cars they first offered here. It was somewhat of a steep learning curve for all the Asian imports I guess. And those first Hondas had 2 cylinder motorcycle STYLE engines BTW. A loaded dump truck would out run them.
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With regards to the LeBaron convertible, there goes 16 to a dozen here and the two others are long forgotten also.
Ford and GM sold millions of cars in Europe. As Ford of Europe, Opels, and Vauxhalls.
Yes, but they were made in Europe, not imported.
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Of course. But US versions had nothing better to offer a European buyer than the cars developed specifically for them.
So here they are.
Quotes #3 and #6 seem to fit the current partisan rock throwing situation that has developed across the country
they are virtually the same sentiment with one slightly more diplomatic. And of course I am quite the DIP-lomat.
I’m not old enough to remember the first Hondas, Toyotas and Subarus offered for sale in the USA
But I AM old enough to remember the first Hyundais offered for sale here
So that’s why I mentioned Hyundai and NOT the other guys
The air cooled two cylinder engines in early Honda cars were never used in any of their motorcycles. It was designed for that car and thus it’s a car engine.
Calling it a “motorcycle engine” is like calling the engine in a VW Beetle an “airplane engine”. simply because it’s a horizontally opposed air cooled engine.
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