It wasn’t even illegal to rollback odometers until 1972! It really didn’t start to get any attempt at enforcement until 1986 with the passage of an odometer fraud act.
If I was a dealer I would have rolled them back and most did.
We had a guy around here still rolling them back around 25 years ago. It was well known in the car circle Pappy Appney had been rolling them back since the 60s. He has sonce passed so I can say his name but lets not duck our heads into the samd on this issue.
GM seat upholstery and many others wore like iron back in the day. Most others did too.
Like Tommy, He’s “Non Impediti Ratione Cogitationis” (Unencumbered by the Thought Process)
Incorrect. I am ENLIGHTENED by the thought process.
For everyone saying we make more now than we did 50 years ago that is FALSE! In 1975 a GM worker in Indiana started at 3.02 an hour. Thats over 30 an hour today. A GM factory worker in Indiana starts at 17.85 an hour today.
50 years was the good old days so let’s everyone get off it because it completely bullroar to think that the entry level worker is better off today than 50 years ago. The disconnect here is alarming.
Be careful that you don’t sprain your arm by patting yourself on the back.
You are spewing midwestern nonsense. My mother was born in 1921 and went to college for 4 years in 1939. Upon graduation she got a job as the controller of a large new york city garment manufacturer. When that business dissolved in 1964, she took a position with a CPA firm, also in new york city. There were plenty of women in professional positions in new york city in those days. Perhaps in the provincial backwoods that wasn’t the case.
You’ve got an overactive imagination, @Old-Days-Rick
As usual
I remember some of the cars our family had in the 1970s
And as I recall, the paint jobs weren’t particularly impressive
After the disastrous Datsun, my SIL bought a new (1970? 1971?) Barracuda. The paint looked like it had been applied with a broom.
No. 3.02 in 1975 is $18.01 an hour today. Calculate it for yourself here:
Because the union negotiated a 2 tier wage system which started new hires at $17.85 with 6% raises each year. The average autoworker as of 2023 makes about $28 an hour or $10 higher than 1975.
A little fact checking goes a long way…
Oh and my limited calling home phone cost the equivalent of $80 a month in today’s money. I have 2 cell phones for $50 a month with unlimited data and long distance in North America.
In 2025 Luxuries are cheap and life is expensive.
In 1975 Luxuries were expensive and life was cheap.
I read an article in ‘Scientific American’ by the chief metallurgist at GM - must have been the ‘70s’. He described the varieties of steel in cars, said that there was no more ‘mild steel’ in a modern car.
The average American has 1 testicle.
I remember a segment on ‘60 minutes’ about rolling back odometers - possibly before the Fraud Act.
Later: I remembered the ‘60 minutes’ segment was about wholesalers rolling back odometers, not retailers.
I live in Fly over country and it is just fine . Well except for Tornados .
You may live in one of the tolerable parts. You seem educated and I guess you live in some place like Bloomington Indiana. Its an oasis in the cesspool that is Indiana.
New cars do last longer than they did 50 years ago…BUT…when they break, the incredible expense to repair a major component failure might render them pretty close to a “new era” for the modern car–disposable.
If it’s so awful, then LEAVE
And stop complaining about how awful it is
Many of us on this website stopped complaining and did stuff to improve our situations, such as relocating, studying, changing career paths, etc.
By all accounts, you’re whining, but not actively trying to change your situation
This!!!, number don’t line up rolling backwards in most cases…
And that!!!, you can’t fake wear and tear, it can be replaced, but installing new carpet, floor mats, pedal rubber, seat(s) will eat up more profit then gained by rolling the odometer back… besides, then you have part new interior, red flag… Also under the hood wear…
I will second that. We have 50 states you could move to. Some that others are leaving at a rapid clip so there must be a spot for you. Move far east or far west to find those more like minded that won’t challange your beliefs but embrace them.
I am thinking that a troll is baiting everyone on this tread, just not sure if the troll is seeking attention, or just this mad at the world, or both… imp
I can see this turning political real fast and getting way out of hand…