Who said anything about Hybrids?
If lithium batteries were āready for prime timeā for the rigors of automotive use, hybrid makers would have quickly adopted them. Only recently has that been the case.
Thatās the whole point Iām making. Tesla coming from the high-tech field was well aware of Lithium batteries. No one had applied the technology to automotive yet. Tesla was the first.
Skip down the section on Batteries from link below.
My post was regarding your comments on GM. Musk was 10 years later, lithium batteries were by then worth considering. No surprise that GM wouldnāt have even considered lithium batteries at the time they were developing the EV1.
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Frankly, at the rate Tesla is bleeding money, the smart move for traditional automakers would be to wait for the company to crater, then buy up patents cheap. Tesla may change the world, but any holder of TSLA stock is unlikely to benefit from it.
Come to think of it, Nikolai Tesla invented a lot of stuff, that made a lot of other people rich. But not Nikolai. Again, the corporate name may be TOO apt.
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I understand why GM didnāt use Lithium batteries. But the technology was available. Just had to be taken to the next level. GM was a car companyā¦not a digital tech company.
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Commercial lithium battery production had just gotten started in 1996. No ājust had to be taken to the next levelā about it, it didnāt exist during the design phase of the EV1.
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Sony introduced the first commercial available Lithium battery in 1991.
Donāt blame Tesla because they had the vision to see itās application use in an auto and GM didnāt.
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Itās amazing what 10 years of battery development can do. Tesla had the advantage of all that.
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They may be in trouble though- check this out:
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I donāt know anything about it but Iām still not convinced that there still is not a fire hazard with them. Iām not comfortable in the middle of the Pacific Ocean in a plane with a bunch of those batteries in it.
Never said they didnāt. But GM did have the money and engineers to have designed their own based on the Lithium battery. Againā¦Not blaming GM. They did the right thing at the right timeā¦just didnāt continue with it. Tesla started because GM stopped itās R&D and crushed all the EV1ās. At the end of the EV1 - Lithium batteries were every well established. GM didnāt see it. Tesla did.
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GM did see the utility of the lithium ion battery for the Volt. They werenāt ready to bring out a fully electric vehicle at the time. Once they were, the Bolt was released. The Volt was a small step forward because at first, they used the Cruze chassis for the Volt. The car was redesigned in the next generation to take advantage of battery positioning in the chassis to lower the center of gravity.
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Yup. Give them great credit too. Iām NOT bashing GM for not using Lithium battery in the EV1. That wasnāt their strengths. They did an excellent job with the technology they were familiar with. Musk coming the tech industry saw things differently.
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Another view of the semi
I hope the artistās rendering is just fantasy to get wows and not really from any kind of engineering drawing. If not, itāll have a hard time turning corners with the trailer that close to the cab. I agree there is no room in that door for the window to roll completely down so maybe it swings out or something.
A local, large moving company bought several of them, even though they wonāt take delivery for at least two years.
?? Itās not a long distance hauler, 100 miles out and back.
Ten minutes off the napkin drawing and people are already picking it apart.
Itās a good thing Musk ignores the pundits and ,moves forward with changing the world.
Yeah it may be just off the napkin but at JT said, people are already ordering them. Iād be firing the guy myself that plunked money down on a truck that canāt be delivered for two years with no track record to go on or physical inspection. What was that Mader ponzi scheme all about again? Oh yeah lots of people invested in him. So if the business goes belly up in two years before delivery, 'spose they get their money back? Nah, donāt think so-itās already spent. I mean if a business is going to plunk down money in advance, at least put it in the charitable contribution account, not the fixed asset account. Or just as I see it from over here.