Sewer Truck and Train crash in Chesapeake, Virginia…

There are actually two bay bridges. Th3 one from Annapolis and the one with the tunnels that I have not been on.

My point was, with the Verazzano waving like that would you cross it by any means?

What you are asking is something I will never do and that is travel to New York City… I grew up in the Adirondack Mountains in New York State and our family ran a logging tug on the Schroon River. I did not get motion sickness even when the wind and waves are tossing the boat all over the place…

Additionally, I have my own climbing spikes and when I was in the Air Force, I was qualified to climb power poles up to 100-feet as many are used for communication, and when you are up there, they wave and sway significantly when one is at the top and I am not afraid of heights…

So, a bridge swinging and swaying does not bother me…, but being in New York City with those “Down-Staters” does…

And that’s another story…

Was discouraged by our bike trip leaders From riding this 4.1mi bridge frim Ilwaco WA over the Columbia River to Astoria. Rode in the van. Mom used to drive that bridge regularly when she lived in Ilwaco. It’s a scary bridge even in good weather

dozen of us high school kids on mountain bikes riding frim ilwaco to Waldport Oregon down highway 101 over a week with a 15pas van pulling a uhaul trailer as our support vehicle.

I was injecting humour regarding that Verazzano clip. The bridge was closed during that episode of galloping Gertie.

Sorry to hear you feel that way. I was raised to believe not in up-staters or down-staters, but in all as NYers and all as Americans.

Reading this thread I had no idea that so many people are afraid of bridges!

Then you are uniquely alone…

I have numerous reasons to not want anything to do with New York City and those DownStaters of their ilk… read this old posting of mine… NYC thinks and acts as if the rest of the state is there to serve their wants and needs…

and watch my personal video of growing up “UpState” and you will better understand my preference not to associate with DownStaters…

During the last census, There are an estimated 2.4 million non-US citizens living in New York City. This demographic accounts for about a quarter of the city’s overall population.

It sounds like some have a problem with those people themselves than with any alleged or perceived behaviors.

Hopefully the vast majority of those are permanent residents on the role, providing goods and services that the majority of multi-generational Americans used to do would of late prefer not to.

@LoudThunder please be careful with your words

Some of us forum regulars immigrated here from other countries

That means we were “non-citizens” for awhile

I understand immigration, I am first generation. My father and his family immegrated to the US after WWI, they waited thier turn, they immegrated through Ellis Island and all learned the language and naturalized as US CItizens… My Mother and her family also immegrated from Scotland to Canada after WWI and in the '30s they immegrated to the US from Canada and they also had to wait for their turn and they also naturalized as US Citizens… I served in the Air force for over 30-years and I served in 17-different locations, in 9-different countries, on 6-different continents. So, I am not some one-stop bigot… Do you know that New York City’s annual expense budget for Fiscal Year 2025 is $124 billion… The whole budget for the entire state is $240 Billion, so who is eating the “Lion’s Share” of all that money?

But to get back to bridges… Route 258 crosses the James River from Newport News on the Virginia Peninsula to the Isle of Wight County. The James River Bridge (JRB) in Virginia is a steel lift bridge. It is a four-lane divided highway bridge that features a vertical lift span, which can be raised to allow large ships to pass beneath it on the James River.

It is a relatively nice trip across the James River, the entire structure is about 4-1/2 miles, for a relaxing “one Cigarette” trip…

However, if you are driving a motorcycle, the trip over the movable lift span, offers a new level in fear, that an inexperienced motorcycle driver may never have felt… The Lift Span uses a steel grid deck (also known as an open-grid or grating deck) and riding over this open-grid or steel grating deck causes the motorcycle’s tires to track the pattern of the metal, creating a “wandering” or “squirrely” sensation and the bike may weave from side to side.

The first time I experienced this, all the cigarettes ever made by Philip Morris would not have calmed my nerves…

I soon learned that this is a normal reaction to the surface and is generally not dangerous if you maintain a steady, relaxed ride. But the first time it’s “Too Little, Too Late…” :joy:

I hadn’t been aware of it until I learned that my SIL’s sister suffered from that syndrome. It definitely led to travel problems for her family.

Yeah my dad liked to fly and had his pilots license so he would be looking around enjoying the scenery, but mom would be pressing on her imaginary brake telling him to watch where he was going.

Although you said he liked to fly and had his pilots license, I am guessing you meant while he was driving the vehicle he liked to look around while your mom was trying hit the none brakes?..

Who’s paying the lion’s share?

We had fixed bridges like that over the Mississippi, the written test for motorcycle endorsement included a question about driving over them.

There are a couple of those lift bridges in Minnesota. They give you fair warning so you don’t ride up with them. In Florida they have the type that opens at an angle. It happens that someone is on the thing when it opens and doesn’t end well.

The grates in the apex of bridges here I believe is for ice and snow. Dont look down is all.

What happens when you’re traveling in an airplane?

Do you mean the bridges that swivel? Bridge tender offered to open the bridge, but with the Bimini top town my boat could go under it.

The late 1800s Walk (NorWALK River) 562ft swivel railroad bridge by the 2010s became untenable operationally - it was jamming in the open position too many times to be practical, and so a lift assembly was proposed and designed for that crossing.

Unfortunately, the only way to proceed with removal of of the old Walk and construction of the new lift bridge was to remove the, by 2020, 32 year old and still popular IMAX Theater of the Norwalk Maritime Center (Aquarium - but I still use the original name). Not because IMAX was in the path of the new bridge, but because a staging and materials storage area was required next to the tracks, where IMAX stood.

The new lift bridge is being built “around and above” the exisitng Walk swivel in us by trains, and looks like 2030 it will open.