Regardless, just in from a blizzard out there. My standard size all weather tires did just fine. No slippy, no problem. Ain’t going out again. And not gonna put any model T tires on. You folks can do what you want.
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What are considered standard size for your ride?
By the way, 60-70 series as a winter size are not among ‘model T’ size tires.
225/50 R 17 Altimax.
We had General Altimax tires on an earlier van. They performed well and at an attractive price.
For me, ‘standard’, year round - is a 70-series.
I too have 50-series on 17” on my particular trim Honda Accord. I tolerate them, but found ‘borrowing’ my then-vacationing neighbor’s Elantra, on 65-series tires, to be a lot more engaging to drive. It’s a smaller car, so maybe that played a role.
I just put on the size the car came with.
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That’s good. I’m still just a little ‘culture-shocked’ by the aspect ratios I see on cars from 2010 to present. The example someone else posted above, and I share here:
Is not far off from my own perception of tires and wheels on even economy-oriented cars nowadays.
I wonder: Is this:
How some participants here perceive/view the tire proportions I prefer?
Rikking Fridiculous!
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I wonder how they decided on a 23% aspect ratio?
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I don’t think anyone recommended you put on skinnier tires for winter driving. I surely don’t. I’d only recommend it if you live in an area with extreme snow conditions like Central NY where towns there can average 200” of snow a year.
I’ll be honest, I didn’t even know they made a 23 series (modern) tire…
But when I got low pro install certified (company thing) back in 2008, I found that the 275/30 or 35 series 24" tires (don’t remember the exact size) were much easier to mount than the 40 series and up tires on a basic turn table tire machine…
This site:
lists sizes in metric and P-metric down to only about 25% aspect.
They also have extensive tables for calculating loads of different size tires at different pressures, etc.
Too many posts to review, but “skinny tire’ might also be applied to using OEM size, especially on pickups. Most of you have seen 4X4s with very wide tires. In snow they can be detrimental, tending to climb on the snow and losing traction. In Utah, those pickups were referred to boulevard cruisers, never saw a dirt road.
Back to bias ply days, not uncommon for manufacturers to install the tire with the bare minimum requirements for the vehicle, and often two ply. Common then was to go up one size, ie if OEM was 225x15, go to a 235x15, aspect ratio around 80.
Back to radials: had a 2001 pickup, OEM tires were 70s, had a flat, tires were nearing replacement time. tire store only had 75 series in stock. IMHO, the slightly taller tire improved the looks, the slight speedometer error did not bother me.
Darn, should have broken this into several posts in our quest for 600!
For the quest to 600 post:
At least the 2023 Tacoma’s, but I think same for 2016 - 2023, the basic RWD SR/SR5 tire size is 245/75R16 @ 32 psi,
then the basic and some TRD trims 4x4 tire is 265/70R16 @ 30 psi,
then they go to a 265/65R17 @ 29 psi,
and for the limited(?) a 265/60R18 @ 29 psi
depending on trims and some odd ball options…
But yeah, a lot of the snow guys on the other forum are running pizza cutters (235/85R16’s), but the rock crawlers and sand and dirt guys are running up to 295/70R16 or 17’s…
The really hard core guys are running wide tires during the warm months for off roading and then pizza cutters for the snowy weather… Most of the guys are off roaders with pictures to prof it…
Me, I’ve got the pavement princes, my off roading days are over… I plan on in the future doing a 2/3.5" drop, since it is a RWD on a 4wd suspension… All RWD’s from 2016-2023 are basically Pre Runners for some reason… Another words, my truck ride height is a high as a 4wd ride height…
Do you have LTs or P-series on your Tacoma?
I’m thinking P-series because of the tire pressures you mentioned
P’s, the OEM’s are Firestone Destination LE2’s for the street 245’s
But the 265/16&17’s AT’s are Goodyears for the most part…
Not sure what the 18’s are though for the HT and AT tires…
They are all factory P metrics, but lots of the off road guys are running LT’s from C to E’s, mainly due to size choice and or better when around the rocks, thicker sidewalls equal better protection against sharp rocks and or sticks or other objects out on the trails…
But even the E load range guys are running low 30’s psi on the street…
If I recall correctly, 50psi is usually the minimum acceptable pressure for load range E tires
All depends on the weight of the vehicle and the load range of the tire or something like that anyway… The Tacoma has a GVWR of 5600 lbs, most have a stock curb weight under 4500 lbs, mine is 4205, so using a 5600 lb max weight divided by 4 equals 1400 lbs per corner, (not looking up front and rear weights lol), so given a LT265/75R16 runs 35psi for 1910 lbs and @ 40psi 2100 lbs, that should put the 1400 lbs in the high 20 psi range, after adding in the safety margin, math makes my head hurt… lol
On my 23 Limited Tacoma 4x4
“MICHELIN Defender LTX M/S 2”
- Size: 265/60R18
- Style: Blackwall
- Load Range: XL
- Serv. Desc: 114H
- UTQG: 820 B A
Load Index 114= 2,601 lbs (1,180 kg) per tire
Speed Rating “H”= 130 mph
Why It comes with 130mph tires I have no idea
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The 3.5L Tacoma’s will easily hit 130 mph, one of the forum members with a basic tune hit between 120 mph and 140 mph in S4 (4th gear), I can cruise at 80-85 mph in S4 at around 3000 rpms, I can’t find the post now, but it was a stock truck with the same tune I have now (the way they should have come), he had a video and pics of the speedo… A lot of vehicles come with 130+ mph tires… I don’t plan on ever going that fast, I haven’t gone past the 95 mph mark yet in the truck… lol
Very rare I am on the interstate with no other humans or dogs in the truck…