Rank your own vehicles

OK, well, this has been very informative. So far we have 12 posts that gave some sort of preference order to their cars. From those 12 lists, I counted up the top 3 makes. Just to make the scoring easy, I gave one point to a make when it appeared anywhere in the top 3. (So, first, second, and third places all get one point each. May not be entirely fair, but makes the counting easier!)

10 points: Toyota
8 points: Honda
5 points: Subaru
4 points: Ford
2 points: Olds, Nissan, Chevy
1 points: Pontiac, Dodge, Acura, and the infamous AMC Gremlin!

Now, of course, it’s easy to poke holes in this unscientific survey. But what’s interesting is that the top 4 makes (Toyota, Honda, Subaru, and Ford) are the exact makes Tom and Ray recommended in their “10 Worst” (meaning best) list. Of course, Tom and Ray were recommending the new Fords, not the '83 F150’s!

Most surprising result: the AMC Gremlin makes one reader’s Top 3 list, despite being rated by Tom and Ray (and the rest of the world) as one of the 10 worst cars of the century!

Thanks to all who wrote in. It’s been fun.

Best: It’s a tie between my 2005 Accord EX V6 and my 1998 Regal LS. There have been a few problems with the Buick, but it is a lot older and has almost twice the mileage (77,000 vs 135,000). The worst was a Porsche 914.

I changed my mind. The worst car was a 1970 Austin America. It needed a top end job at 7500 miles. But then, Brits always did a top end job at 5000 miles on any B-L car because they know the heads were warped and would burn a vale or two any day. But it was a blast to drive.

Then why do they dish out so much false mechanical information that a decent entry level mechanic knows is incorrect?

#1…the show started out as an actual technical car show…Where people would call up and ask technical questions…It’s morphed into something totally different.

#2…That’s a matter of opinion. In fact I know a couple of trusted master mechanics who listen to them all the time and have found little fault with their advice.

I’ve owned nothing but old American cars, mostly others’ cast off junk, so they’ve all needed a lot of maintenance over the years. But the one that’s been rock-solid dependable? My '51 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup. 216" six cylinder, 1 bbl. carb, points ignition, six volt electrics. In the fourteen years I’ve been driving it, I’ve changed the oil and greased it many times, plugs-points-condensor twice, and a water pump. That’s it. In the sea of foreign cars mentioned in this post, a 60 year old Chevy sure seems out of place !

Good:
1994 Honda Prelude Si, 284k
1995 Ford Escort Gt, 267k

Bad:
1986 Toyota Mr2 180k
1986 Buick LaSabre 70k (3.0 v6)
2002 Ford Focus 45k
2001 Ford Focus 145k
1998 Olds Intrigue 155k

If someone finds their MGB was their most reliable car, I can’t wait to see the rest of their list.

Reliable/dependable vehicles bought new and owned long enough to know

  1. 1989 Toyota Pickup
  2. 1979 Toyota Pickup
  3. 1976 Toyota Corolla
  4. 1982 Honda Civic
  5. 1986 Toyota Van
  6. 2005 Scion tC

Poor reliability vehicles…best to worst
1993 Mazda MPV, V6
1995 Saturn
1972 Vega

Others were used vehicles or not owned long enough to know if they’d be reliable.

Let me ask this question and I’ll keep it generic.
You have a repair done on your car that cost you north of say 500 dollars when in reality the problem is a 20 dollar fix. This problem is actually Mechanics 101 and involves little diagnostic or brain beating. Are you mad about it?

I don’t see your point…T&R DON’T CHARGE for their advice…so where does the $500 come from…and it’s IMPOSSIBLE for them to diagnose the problem over the radio…much like people trying to diagnose a problem in this forum…

And if a mechanic charged me $500 and it should have only cost $20 then yes I would be mad…still missing the point though.

I’ll just go in chronological order, since I really haven’t had a car that was really any more or less reliable then the others.

  1. 1974 Ford F-100, 390 4bbl, 3 speed manual. Got this gem when I was 15 (circa 1994) When I got it, it didn’t run, had a bad clutch and about 140k on the clock. Dad and I spend several months fixing it. The stock 2 bbl 302 was deemed to wimpy so we found a 390 in a junkyard and did a mild rebuild (slightly hotter cam, better intake manifold, new carb, minor porting of the heads, etc.) and we found a complete 9 inch axle with 4.11 gears in it too, so used that as well. We had the truck repainted, reupholstered the seat, new wheels/tires, new mirrors, and she was ready by the time I got my drivers license. Dad kept it around until about a year ago. All in all a fantastic vehicle to learn to drive on, since every other car you drive afterwards will seem very easy to drive.

The Good: It was quite the sleeper, and pretty reliable, nothing ever actually broke on it.

The Bad: 7 MPG on high test gas was about as good as it got. Lap belts only, No AC, Manual steering, manual brakes, and an 8 track player. Not a chick magnet at all. It also has some sort of weird carb icing problem in snowy weather.

  1. 1992 Ford Thunderbird SC. My saintly grandmother felt the F-100 was too unsafe for he favorite grandson. She gave an ultimatum to my mom and dad that if they didn’t provide me with safer vehicle to drive, then she definitely would. Mom called Granny’s bluff, but much to her chagrin, Granny made good on her threat and for my 18th birthday I was given the keys to cherry-red T-Bird SC. It had about 46k on the clock when I got it. And it was far, far nicer to drive when compared with the F-100, mostly I was happy about having air conditioning. I was forced to turn it over to my brother when he turned 16 since I hadn’t paid for the car or anything. The car had about 140k on the clock when I was done with it. No major repairs.

The Good: Good combination of power and economy, very comfortable, it’s a rare car
The Bad: Brakes didn’t last long

1995 Ford Bronco. When my brother turned 16, I was informed that he would be getting the T-Bird, and I would have to go procure my own means of transportation. I was in college at the time and was working part time at a body shop, making pretty-good-for-a-college-kid money. I knew I was going to have to give the T-Bird well ahead of time, so I had been putting money away for sometime anyway. I budgeted myself $15k and went looking. I was really considering a newer (at the time) 1997 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4, but. I didn’t want to finance anything. I eventually found a 1995 Bronco with about 48k on the clock. The asking price was pretty low. So I bit, after some minor haggling. Eventually I added a 4 inch lift, 33 inch tires, a rear locker, GT-40 heads, shorty headers, and straight pipe dual exhaust, and 4.56 gears. The Bronco served me faithfully. The only major repair was a transmission rebuild around the 175k mile mark. I wasn’t in the market of selling it, but a couple months ago a high school kid who I knew from work asked if he could make an offer on it. I told him sure, and he offered me $1500 more than it was really worth. He talked with his parents, I talked with his parents, I gladly let them take to their mechanic to get it checked out. Their mechanic couldn’t find anything wrong with it, other than the fact that it had well over 200k on the odometer. So I sold it, and bought slightly new (1997) F-150 with far less mileage (72k) as its replacement until Ford finally gets cracking on that 2 door Excursion :slight_smile:

The Good: Great front seats, excellent off-road prowess, better handling that you might expect, good cargo capacity.

The Bad: Fuel economy isn’t great (9-11 MPG), wears out brakes, and front suspension parts more quickly than most cars.

  1. 2003 Ford Mustang GT. I had always wanted a V8 Mustang ever since I was about 9 years old. So I finally bought one in 2005. At the time I was selling cars for a living and was able to pick up this one from auction for basically a song. I was really after a Cobra or Mach 1 model, but this was too good of deal to pass up. I modified it heavily, Kenne Bell supercharger, Ford Racing 4.10 gears, Centerforce Clutch, BBK long tube headers, off-road H pipe, single chamber Flowmasters, Eibach Sportline springs, adjustable Koni shocks/struts, Brembro brakes, Bullitt wheels, and some other goodies. It’s my daily driver and has about 110k on the clock now. The biggest repair so far: power window regulator.

The Good : Good power, good fuel economy (18-21 MPG). Good handling
The Bad: Bone-jarring ride, everyone has a Mustang, seats aren’t as good as the Broncos were.

  1. 1997 Ford F-150: Replacement for the Bronco bought it a couple months ago from an elderly fellow who didn’t drive it much. It had about 72k on the clock when I got it. It now has about 75k on the clock, I don’t drive it much either, but I like to have another vehicle on hand for bad weather and towing my Aquatrax around during the summer. The only things I’ve done to it so far are a new set of tires, new spark plugs/wires, and an oil change.

The Good: Drives well, good mileage for a V8 full-sized 4WD truck (17 MPG overall)
The Bad: Very common, kinda boring, bug guard collects all kinds of yard debris

  1. 1974 Triumph TR6, been in the family since new. Totally restored inside, new top. It was repainted in the mid 1980’s but it’s ready for another one. It has about 80k on the clock.

The Good: It has personality, it’s rare, it handles well, chicks dig it.
The Bad: It leaks oil (keeps the chassis rust free!), the headlights change intensity at random, turn signals work randomly, horn only works when the steering wheel is at full left lock, Wipers work sporadically, the Zenith-Stromberg carbs are uh…intresting.

None of the cars I had when I was younger were new nor did I leave them alone, I was often poking them to make them go faster.

More recently, I don’t keep any cars all that long. Only my 95 Ranger, and that should be dead by now.

It’s really hard to list all of the cars and it’s been over so many years, that I think it’s an apples-to-oranges comparison.

  1. 2008 Jeep Compass (80,000 miles and no problems or recalls)

  2. 2004 Toyota Matrix (some fit-and-finish issues but very reliable)

  3. 2006 Chrysler PT Cruiser (goes through brakes and basic maintenance a pain but very reliable)

  4. 1992 Plymouth Acclaim (my first “modern” car w/front wheel drive and fuel injected)

  5. 1978 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme (completely indestructible but usual problems for cars of its era)

  6. 2000 Ford Focus (more recalls than I can count, water leaking, heater core going out, vacuum leaks, etc.)

  7. Misc “beater” cars from the 70’s and 80’s. I didn’t really maintain them in any way and just drove them all until they died; IRC, this included a LeBaron, Marquis, Stanza, Omni, and Aspen. I used to buy $500 cars, which I typically got a year or two out of. They were all loud and smoked a lot but got me from A-to-B.

  8. 2009 Toyota Prius (complete junk and the reason I will never buy another Toyota).

You are aware that the point system is meaningless with regard to actual reliability right?

The gremlin only gets one point, but then only one person has owned one, and therefore it is unfairly penalized due to its rarity.

Unfair penalty on the Gremlin? LOL! There’s probably a good reason only one poster owned one…

I don’t find your scoring that interesting, because it doesn’t correct for the frequency at which people report owning the vehicles. If you look at these lists, there are TONS of Toyotas and Hondas, so even if they were no more or less reliable, you would expect to see more instances of them at the top just from pure chance.

What I find interesting is how, more than brand, the model year of the vehicle seems to correlate well with a high place on people’s lists. The newer the vehicle, the more reliable.

Thank goodness they don’t make them like they used to, right?

Like I said, an “unscientific” survey. There are probably ten different ways to analyze the results, and each way will have its own shortcomings.

I encourage all readers to do their own scoring, according to whatever method they like. The more, the merrier.

These are the cars I’ve owned. Some good,some not so good

1949 Chevy 4 door sedan (first car)
1953 ford Tudor (first V-8)
1959 ford Galaxy convertible (first chick car)
1962 Falcon 2 door
1966 ford fairlane station wagon
1974 ford torino
1975 ford maverick
1978 Chevy pk up
1987 mercury cougar
1989 Chevy pk up
1998 ford Taurus
2004 gmc pk up
2007 Honda accord

  1. '96 Chrysler Cirrus. 2.5L V6: Tight turning radius. Radiator, fuel pump, & distributor replaced over 235,000 miles.

  2. '71 Chevy C10 Cheyenne. 350 CID V8; 2WD; Long bed; Fleetside: I felt like a King.

  3. '72 Plymouth Valiant. 318 CID V8: It’s cool to be square.

  4. '71 LTD Station Wagon. 351W: Leaky Ford valve seals. Started backfiring continually till I put Marvel Mystery oil in it. That Snake Oil worked!

  5. '76 Dodge Pickup. 1/2 ton; 2WD; 318 CID V8: Pinged; last guy had torn out the EGR system. Drove from Allentown, PA to Lancaster w/timing chain 1 tooth off.

  6. '65 Buick Sport Wagon: Just like the Olds Vista Cruiser

  7. '73 Chevy Nova. L6 (235 CID?): “Beater”

  8. '83 Chevy Cavalier Hatchback. L4: Well, it ran.

  9. '63 Cadillac Sedan De Ville. 429(?)CID V8: Sure winner at the demo’s.

  10. '65 Dodge Pickup (1st Series). 1/2 ton; 2WD; Stepside; Slant 6 225 CID: My first pickup. Instant Good Ole Boy!

11.'61 VW Karman Ghia. 1200 cc Flat 4: First love, but boy did she let me down. Maybe if I’d treated her better…

I can’t say I can rank my cars from best to worst. Here is what my wife and I have owned:

1977 F150 4x4
1977 F150 2wd
1986 Mercury Lynx
Plymouth Turismo (can’t remember year)
1992 Ford Tempo
1995 Ford Ranger 2wd
1989 Olds Cutlass Supreme
1995 Dodge Avenger
1986 Chevette
2001 Dodge Neon
1986 Nissan Stanza Wagon
1986 Pontiac Parisienne
1999 Dodge Dakota 2wd (limited slip)
2003 Jeep Grand Cherokee
1991 Eagle Talon
2006 Honda Civic
2007 Suzuki Forenza
1994 Chevy 3/4 ton 2wd

We currently own the Civic, Forenza and 94 truck which we bought to pull a camper. As far as most reliable, I’d have to say the Civic, but my Lynx was pretty good too. The Tempo was a joke, the Chevette actually caught on fire after I sold it to a guy, and the Forenza I currently drive is quite possibly the most disappointing vehicle I’ve ever owned. Although the 95 Ranger ranks right up there too. The 86 Nissan Stanza Wagon was pretty cool. It was a wanna-be minivan with features that American minivan makers touted years later like child saftey locks and dual sliding doors. Plus I only paid $400 for it. My favorite was my Dakota which got repossessed after I spent a year out of work. What sucks is it was almost paid off. In fact, I got a refund check after they acutioned it. If that had not happened, I would still be driving that truck.