all I"m saying is that the WMT in Winston Salem, NC didn’t have ST oil filters anymore. When I was in WMT in SC just south of charlotte, I talked to the auto parts manager and told him about the issue with stocking a ST-4386 for the 2005 camry but said they (listing) says use the ST-4967 and it works. Not sure if other WMT’s are done with ST but I’d assume so. also, I’ve posted many years ago that I was going to buy PBY’s (pep boy brand) of oil filter and looked at the plate and the holes (most of them) weren’t drilled through. Maybe 1-2 were open if that and the rest were closed. Not sure if my engine would die but it would definately go into bypass mode. So there are some filters that might have defects in them. Hope I don’t extentd this thread into the odds of that happening. LOL