Maybe you want to consider changing your outlook
You’re stressing yourself out
This doesnt affect your cars in any way
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The issue is I just cannot bring myself to buy a newer vehicle. I can not buy something with 1200 dollars of fuel pumps in it that do exactly what a 15 dollar pump did 40 years ago. Its time these manufacturers, the government or whoever is responsible for all this, STOP THE MADNESS 
We have reached the point of peak automobile about 20 years ago. I cannot entertain anymore of these high pressure gasoline direct injection engines, or screen cars. That is cars with screens that go across the whole dash.
I. Cannot. Do. It.
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My car today is much better than my car from 20 years ago, so don’t expect many people to agree with you.
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No they do not, a typical $15 mechanical fuel pump ONLY produced around 7psi max, a typical in tank electric fuel pump produces around 80+psi and the high pressure mechanical fuel pump typically produces up to 5,000 psi, so they are not even in the same class in performance…
About the only time a carburetor can out perform a MPFI system is on a single plain high rise intake manifold on a high rpm engine under WOT, and it has to be dialed in as well as a racing carb that is very expensive, where as a MPFI set up can monitor and adjust A/F ratios for each cylinder giving you better throttle response and better fuel economy, and if you care about it, better emissions, not to mention more HP…
Plus carburetors tend to run rich at start up and wash the cylinder walls down removing the oil causing the rings to wear out prematurely, that is why engines last 3+ times longer between rebuilds than your typical carb’d engine…
Yes my fun car still runs a big carb on it and will stay that way, but I have to adjust it depending on ambient temps etc etc…
They are not the same!!..
Oh yeah and my 2006 Corolla, almost 20yo was a great car, but my daughters 2017 Corolla is way better in everyway, her 2002 Corolla another great car (ALL 3 Corollas) is not even in the same playing field as the 2006 was, in that 4 years the 06 was leaps and bounds better at everything…
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They preform the same basic function, they pump fuel. I do NOT believe in gasoline engines having 5000psi at the fuel rail, i do NOT believe in injecting gasoling directly into the cylinder.
Even in a diesel the IDI engines were the most trouble free. I am simply tired of direct injection in any engine, especially a gasser
I like carbs, however fuel infection does not require direct injection. Honestly you can not beat a TBI gm system for drivability and reliability. All powered by a nice cheap electric fuel pump
My truck has both direct injection as well as port injection they call it D-4S injection, it uses either or and both depending on the needs, so I get the benefits of direct injection as well as port injection that washes the back of the valves, and yes it has 12 injectors, 6 for direct and 6 for port… Toyota is not the only ones doing this…
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I don’t like them . The fuel injection systems let first responders vehicle start and be ready to go in all kinds of weather and all the driver has to do is turn the key or push a button.
@Old-Days-Rick and @ChrisTheTireWhisperer please find a Forum that will agree with your nonsense.
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You did not read my whole statement. You jump to conclusions and clip what I said to fit your narrative. I mentioned that I like some fuel injection, such as the TBI throttle body injection. Its basically a smart carb.
Do you normally want to segregate yourself from others that you don’t agree with?
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anything that has TBI is likely to be as old, or even older 
than Rick’s 1989 Chevy Caprice
It’s getting increasingly hard to keep cars of that age going as daily drivers, imo
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Many years ago, I knew a guy who owned an AMC Hornet, and he was always extremely late… for everything, it seemed… because the Hornet was past its design life, and kept breaking-down. Eventually, people stopped inviting him to dinner because of his habit of showing-up 1.5-2 hours late.
When his boss threatened to fire him because of his frequent tardiness, that threat finally pushed him to dump the Hornet and buy something that was reliable.
And those TBI GMs were dogs. They didn’t last long as no one wanted them except people who didn’t care about performance to know better.
Carbs polluted the air to the point that people in LA and for that matter any big city couldn’t breath. It was 19th century technology.
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Absolutely false. TBI engines lasted forever. Much longer than todays vehicles with unreliable direct injection.
Get off it my friend.
My 84&86 Thunderbirds used TBI, provided good performance for that era.
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An era that mever should have ended! The golden age of the automobile if you will.
If TBI is so awesome, why isn’t it still in use in new cars being sold today?
that’s not a serious question, but I’m sure you’ll answer it 
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Obd 2 killed TBI. Plus the fact everyone wants just a little more power. Why is everybody in such a hurry.
Say what one will about TBI, It was extremely reliable. Not as reliable as a good old carburetor, but close.
power, reliabilty, emissions, etc.
Need I go on?
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Woo Hooo, Hahahahahahahaha!
Oh, you’re not joking???
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Count me as a fan of TBI for upgrading driver vehicles (not racing) originally equipped with a carb. However, all of my factory equipped TBI vehicles had electric fuel pumps inside the fuel tank. Due to the relatively low pressures involved, it is common to use an external pump when doing conversions.