You tell me. You said you don’t want a monthly subscription. So how are you getting onto the internet? WiFi (4g or 5g connection)? Or Cable? Of you using a dialup modem? Simple question.
That’s download speed. Upload speed isn’t the same. Gamers need a lot more than 20mbps. I’ve had times working at home when the internet went out and I used my iPhone (5g) as a hot spot. It was more than fast enough for what I was doing.
They worked well for what they did. Most mature technologies are in that state right before they become completely obsolete. They also have/had toxic metals in them presenting issues with disposal. They weigh a ton and are more costly to ship and store. Finally, and most definitively, they have a terminal limit on picture size. They are essentially technological dinosaurs. They have reached their natural limit and are being replaced with new technology that has the ability to continue to grow and expand.
I would never trade my 95" UHD 4k TV for my last tube TV. There is no going back. I believe most people feel that way about modern televisions. I had to build a reinforced corner shelf to hold that old HDTV cathode ray tube set, it was so heavy. My wife and I can lift the 95" onto a small wall bracket.
The first TV I ever saw was a real POS. But it was a marvel in its time. We all crowded around the tiny screen with terrible resolution and blurry picture that was just black and white. Nobody was clamoring to go back to that when they came out with color sets (which were also terrible when they first came out).
Nobody has to twist consumer arms to adopt new TV technology. There is no issue putting a modern electronic front end on a cathode ray tube set. The issue is, compared to new TVs, the picture sucks and is dinky to boot.
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If you want streaming UHD 4k it does. and 8k wouldn’t be far behind except the limitation in bandwidth currently.
Everything in my house uses WiFi now. All 5 TVs have UHD 4k sets with WiFi set top boxes and internet streaming capability, the phones are all WiFi calling when they have access to it, the numerous tablets and computers, the 3D printers, the security system/cameras, the vacuum cleaners and it goes on. We have gig speed now and must have more bandwidth 
our provider is upgrading their infrastructure yet again to provide it.
+1
And, let’s not forget that after 4 or 5 years, the CRT picture tube would need to have a “booster” installed in the line in order to rectify the shrinking picture. After a year or so with the “booster” it was time to replace the picture tube.
Yup!
I still recall being in an appliance store in 1954 or 1955, and they had a color TV on display. No matter what the guys in the store did in order to try to adjust the color, it was awful, and the newscaster on the screen had a sickly green complexion.
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If you came up to me while I was crossing the street and attempted to instruct me on the safe, legal method to cross the street, you be the one on the roadway after I slugged you in the mouth.
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I just did a WIFI test and right now it is showing:
Download 661 Mbps
Upload 648 Mbps
Now what that means is above my pay level, but the kids say it’s fast…
I know that I downloaded the 2016 Tacoma FSM (factory service manual), all 11,292 pages in PDF forum in seconds, not minutes, like a lot of members on the other forum complain about, it opens in 8 seconds… lol
I currently use T-Mobile’s 5G internet connected to wifi for my home. I game with it and it works well with upload speeds varying from 10mbps to 30 mbps or so. I have two 5G phones with them as well. I pay less for the bundle than my last satellite tv only payment… and that was over 10 years ago.
I have a 1080i tv (it is a 20 year old Panasonic) and most of what I watch is not in 4K let alone 8K. I was streaming tv at 1K and 20 mbps with my old DSL service and it was fine. We haven’t watched separate tvs in 3 or 4 years so even the DSL is adequate. 5G was a big step up and I upgraded equipment once already. Likely I will replace the old plasma with a 4K or 8K box. Maybe by them the fiber optic lines will run down my street… it is available at the end of the street.
But, of course, if someone insists on using an old CRT tv, 720p would be just fine streamed at 10 mpbs.
You folks are way over my head. I’ve got Wi-Fi that I bought the box for. I’ve got bundled tv, phone, and internet. I’ve got a land line and cell service. I have an antenna in the attic for four of my flat screens, and I have two $8 a month cable boxes for the big TVs. I also have three ups battery boxes for the Wi-Fi and two computers. When the power goes out I can run for a couple hours before I hav3 to switch to cell service. Can’t imagine I need more. Confusing enough now. The cable guy said to get roko but haven’t yet. I’m tired of all this electronic stuff.
Now I will say that thanks to some uninformed folks in the legislature, th3 power company has been forced to spend money on more expensive and less dependable power sources. So what used to be highly dependable is now suspect every time the wind blows. It’s gone out for two to four hours about six times in the last few months. If it gets much worse I’ll look at the jackery battery bad up.
Comcast includes wifi as part of the router you plug your phone and desktop into can also usee wifi if on their network when traveling. The condio we borrow to visit family has wifi that the owners pay the internet subscription for.the Roku TV. They bought it as a place to stay when they visit the kids
Context, Mike!
I was talking about TV, not internet.
Of course I pay for my internet service.
Even if you were crossing “against the light”, or jaywalking?
See that’s what I don’t understand: This reluctance to follow rules - rules by the way that are not of my origin or “my opinion”.
Unless a member of law enforcement instructs pedestrians otherwise, pressing the walk button where provided, and waiting before crossing, are not electives.
So no traffic and I’m gonna stand in the cold blowing snow waiting for the light to change? Naw. Most people take reasonable initiative regardless of rules, not lik3 the UK.
The intersection I encounter on my walk has a button to turn on lights in the road but usually when I reach the curb looking in the direction of approaching traffic they stop and wait for me to get across. Then looking to my right at the halfway point to make sure drivers see me before crossing. Maybe being right outside a neighborhood the drivers are used to pedestrian traffic. Can see cars coming both ways for a distance. At night or foggy weather you’d need the lights.
So are you suggesting that crossing the street when it feels right, regardless of zebra stripes or signals, might be an ‘American’ trait?
Why do you have to constantly question everything and lecture everyone . . . ?!
Why do you persist in insinuating in no uncertain terms you are doing things correctly, while all the rest are constantly doing it all wrong . . . ?!
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I have Version Fios Gigabit Internet (that’s 1,000 megabit (Mb) connectivity)… None of my PCs, Laptops, phones, streaming devices (Roku, Tablo, Firestick, etc…) can use all that bandwidth, but when the wife and I are both on the internet and the grandkids are streaming on the TV, there is never any slowdown or buffering going on…
This is my Router’s readings… The wife is on her Laptop and a grandkid is steaming something off the Roku… I do not pay for any cable… My 18’ beam antenna in the attic pulls in 65-digital channels off the air and the streaming devices bring in thousands more…
Router Broadband Speed Test…
My PC’s Broadband Speed Test…
I have friends who spend big bucks on all the premium cable channels and they still complain there is nothing worthwhile watching… And as they surf through the cable’s program schedule, they also complain that they miss half the show by the time they find it’s on…
If you want to watch older programs that cable subscribers pay for in their subscriptions you can watch those shows for free on Pluto streaming tv. There are old movie channels that stream as well as Hoopla available with your library card. TV, movies and music. Heck my local CBS affiliate streams new and weather 24/7.
Depends on what type of gaming you do. The high-end on-line gamers need speeds of 100mbps or more. What Is A Good Internet Speed For Gaming?
For TV 3mbps is fine if it’s only one device. HDTV requires more than 5mpbs and with multiple devices it’s recommended to have at least 25mbps.
Before buying an 8k look into OLED. They are different technologies that can be merged together into 1 unit, but they cost more than the average price car ($50,000). I still have a 10yo LCD/LED TV that works just fine. My middle son owns an OLED TV and picture is amazing.
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When hurricanes knock out cable I have used an antenna. I too get around sixty channels, however 2/3 of those channels are either in Spanish or are televangelists asking for money.
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