Near collision

Both drivers need to stay as close to the side they are turning into. She did what they call a wide turn and that’s not correct. She should have turned into the right most lane, established position in that lane before signaling to move over to the left when it was clear to do so. That being said, getting into an accident and being right doesn’t really help. So it’s best to avoid that at all costs. Responding in kind never works, you’ll never educate that kind of driver so best to avoid confrontation and go about your business. Sometimes, I have trouble following my own advice :grinning: depends on the circumstances…

They taught us in Driver’s Education that green does not mean go, it means you can proceed with caution. When I see these kind of scenarios unfolding, I’ll usually slow roll to avoid the potential of an interaction like this. It’s harder to do a tight right like that than a tight left…

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You ask what the rules are but the driver that gave you the salute is not asking and likely doesn’t know or care to know.

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Being the driver who did the right thing doesn’t really matter very much if you and/or your loved ones wind up being injured or dead. Avoidance is the best approach.

I understand and completely agreed.

I was just curious about “ IF “ the lady and I collided, who would have been found at fault.

Texaxx reminded me that here in NY, left turns have the least rights, so I’d be found at fault ( unless I captured the event on camera and had an experienced lawyer argue it).

It takes a matured and well established person to say this. Unlike some whose goal is to main a false notion of perfection.

My dad often says: “ I don’t fear the driver who makes mistakes, but I dread the ones who never do.”

In yet another instance of the driver who did the right thing getting the short end of the stick, there was a really horrendous accident 2 nights ago on I-80 in NJ. The driver of a Toyota SUV hit the median/guard rail, and in an attempt to avoid hitting the Toyota, an 18-wheeler jack-knifed, and then the 18-wheeler went into the opposing lanes and hit two vehicles–a box truck and a GMC SUV.

The box truck burst into flames, and the two people inside were incinerated. The driver and passenger in the 18-wheeler sustained serious injuries, along with the GMC driver. The only ones to escape with minor injuries were the two people in the Toyota SUV.

Because the 18-wheeler was carrying a load of flammable glue, the interstate was closed for more than 6 hours after the collisions, thereby totally tying-up commuter traffic. If the driver of the 18-wheeler had hit the Toyota instead of doing the right thing by trying to avoid it, perhaps the deaths, other injuries, and a massive traffic jam could have been avoided.

I will just caution that the long weekend drivers are out there so be careful. Coming back from the compost site with the trailer, I make a left turn at a controlled intersection. The opposite road is two lanes. The left lane is left turn or straight. The right lane is right turn only. So you gotta watch signal lights to see if a car is turning to allow you to turn left. But as my driversvtraingbinatructor (bless his soul) said in 1964, ya gotta make sure they are actually going to turn. Etched in my mind. Of course a pick up went straight from the right turn lane. No problem. I’m ready fir it.

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It’s also etched in my mind. Circa 1958, my brother was crossing the street (on foot) and he thought that it was safe to cross because a driver signaled a turn just before the spot where my brother was crossing. Instead, he went straight ahead, and hit my brother, who went flying into the curb.

A neighbor, who owned the Flying A gas station, witnessed it, and brought my brother home. Luckily, no serious injuries, but I’ll always remember what the neighbor said about not trusting a turn signal.

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