Minor punishment for killing other drivers in MN

I think you’re “off” by a year, possibly two years. In 1969, they were still sending guys to ‘Nam in large numbers. In the summer of either ‘70 or ‘71, my number came up, and I had to report for my Draft Physical.

They found that I had high blood pressure, but just to make sure that I wasn’t “faking it” (??) , I was given a form that my doctor had to fill out after taking and recording my blood pressure for 3 consecutive days. When my Hypertension was confirmed, I received a 4F classification.

EDIT It was definitely the summer of 1971, because I was enrolled in Graduate School that summer, and remember that I had to fit-in those MD visits with my class schedule.

In 1970 I graduated and no more deferment. I hadn’t been home for two weeks when I got a notice to take my physical. I had signed up for reserves but they did not have an opening until July 1. They said whoever gets me first and sent me on another physical same place, same tests, but at keast I knew what dog was then. They didn’t teach lathe operation in business school. It all worked out. Met some great guys. Our drill sarge failed to go to his reserve meetings and got yanked in. A lesson. Don’t miss meetings. So yeah, things were still pretty hot then.

Got a source for that please?

Not according to this

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Whoo hooo, we’re #1.
I always thunk we was edumacated 'round here.

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I graduated from High School in 1970, My draft number was 311… I entered the Air Force in January 1971. In 2001, I retired from the Air Force after 30-years… One of my school friends had a low two-digit draft number… In the Senior year, he did not return after the Christmas break… Several months later, he stopped by the school, wearing his Navy Uniform… He was not going to wait for the draft…

However, between 1964 and 1973, over 1.8 million U.S. military personnel were drafted, with the highest annual totals occurring in 1966 (382,010), 1965 (230,991), and 1967 (228,263). Total inductions surged from 112,386 in 1964, peaking in 1966 before decreasing. With the addition of the personnel who voluntarily enlisted, the totals exceeded 2.4 million in uniform…

Annual U.S. Military Draft Inductions (1964–1973)

1964: 112,386; 1965: 230,991; 1966: 382,010; 1967: 228,263; 1968: 296,400 ; 1969: 283,500 ; 1970: 163,500 ; 1971: 98,000 ; 1972: 49,000 ; 1973: 646 were drafted bfore the signing of the Paris Peace Accords on January 27, 1973.

Now you know…

It’s been a quiet week in Lake Wobegon…!

Loved that show.

Depending on what district, about half the kids are reading st grade level. Worse for math.

Just google students reading at grade level in minnesota

What I’m questioning and challenging is the fourth word in that phrase. I have eyes. I watch the news. I read the outcomes.

Well of course people and resultant jurors have bias. In our case we ruled for the police and against the guy charged with dui. Another case the defendant was a kid ii grew up with but the lawyer never asked. I was quite aware of his money making schemes and ruled against him. Another on3 I wasn’t on but a guy at work was. A husband ■■■■ th3 guy sleeping with his wife. That would have been a tough one.

But that collar probably didn’t die during detent or custody.

I’m not saying that all uniforms are bad. Maybe one in ten thousand? But sometimes make mistakes in carrying out their duty.

Officially Vietnam ended with the Fall of Saigon on April 30th, 1975. But most if-not-all combat troops left at the beginning of 1973. I left at end of 72 after spending only 6 months there with limited enemy engagement. I was one of the very lucky ones.

Perhaps you never heard of the Magna Carta, 1215 CE, guaranteed a jury trial.

You may have never been summoned to jury duty. There are forms to be filled out. If you make it past that there is Voir dire where jurors are questioned. I wanted jury duty but never made it past Voir dire, and that was a civil case. Sure, no system is perfect, but it is better than the alternative. In some cases a jury trial can be waived by the defendant and is up to the judge.

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In my one and only call for jury duty, I was eliminated during Voir Dire. I don’t usually provide a long-winded response, but because this situation was mildly interesting–and because I’m stuck inside as a result of the monster storm–I will go on… and on.

The case involved a fire fighter, who was suing a homeowner because the fire fighter slipped on ice in front of the guy’s home–while the fire department was trying to knock down a fire in the house. In my mind, it was highly-likely that the ice had formed as a result of water sprayed from the fire hoses, but nobody asked me for my opinion on that issue.

Anyway, as Voir Dire began, the judge asked the following question: “Did you ever sue anyone for personal injury, have you ever been sued for personal injury, did you ever sue a fire fighter, or did a fire fighter ever sue you? And, are you related to, or are you friends with, a fire fighter?”

The first prospective juror said that his mother slipped on a lettuce leaf, in the A&P, back in the 1940s, and she sued A&P for personal injury. The judge excused him. The second juror said that he belonged to a running club, and that a couple of the members were firemen. The judge asked him how many club members there were, and how many of those members were firemen. The response was that over 200 people belonged to the club, and that 2 or 3 of them were firemen–but the juror had never met those firemen. The judge excused him.

There were a couple of other prospective jurors who were also excused for what I thought to be inconsequential reasons. Then, it was my turn in the box. I related–honestly–that when I was ~11 years old, we had been involved in a car accident in CT, and that our car had been heavily damaged by the off-duty Fire Chief of the town of Jewett City, CT. We were all injured, my brother had to be hospitalized, it cost quite a bit to have the car repaired, and we sued–and won–our negligence case against the off-duty Chief.

It was now close to 4PM, and by this time, the very elderly judge had gathered only a couple of qualified jurors. I think he was frustrated at this point because he had excused so many people from the jury pool. But, he flew into a minor rage when I told my true story and he SHOUTED at me, “So, are you telling me that you couldn’t be objective in this case?” I shrugged my shoulders and said, “I’m not sure.” He again flew into a minor rage, and he said, “I’m excusing you from this case, but I’LL BE SURE TO PUT YOU ON A CASE TOMORROW, no matter the circumstances”. Yes, his reaction to my true story was a bizarre overreaction.

After leaving the courtroom, I encountered the Jury Manager, who had given us our orientation talk earlier in the day, and I asked him about reporting for duty on the following day, as I had been directed to do by Judge xxxx. He laughed, and said, “The policy is the same as what I mentioned this morning. If we don’t put you on a case today, then you are excused from jury duty.” He then added, “It’s a shame that Judge xxxx doesn’t seem to be aware of the regulations”.

So, for those who think that they want their fate decided solely by a judge, consider the case of this borderline-demented judge.

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I certainly have been, and it is most inconvenient. I waited my rounds and was dismissed in each instance, and also had to dispute one summons because it was issued less than 3 years from the last one.

It’s during Voir dire, If I would ever make it that far, that I would present my lack of qualifications: I’m not a judge or a lawyer, etc, the bias I mentioned, etc.

Your experience VDC is an example of why we shouldn’t have a jury system! I’m sorry you had to go through all that.

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How would you explain that you are not qualified? Can you not distinguish a picture of a giraffe from a lion?

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I don’t have a law degree, or even studied law beyond one semester in university.

Okay, so that limited exposure makes you too smart to serve?

BTW: Over 30 states allow individuals without a law degree to serve as judges per Google results.