Just inherited stock 66 Mustang - does not start well after $$$

At the very least, inheriting the 66 Mustang is making OP’s life more interesting :wink:

I know OP wants to keep it, her dad’s pride and joy. My parents decided to splurge on their final car purchase before they went to the stars, bought one with all the bells and whistles — against my advice of course … lol … I inherited that car, and immediately gave it to my parent’s neighbors. The neighbors had helped my parents over the years, so was happy to give them the car. OP might want to try something like that, give the Mustang to somebody who wants and deserves it.

Is there any chance we could see an image of your Mustang?

Tester

I’d be more impressed if it was a fastback.

OP has already mentioned that…

At the top of the edit box (where you type your post) there a lineup of icons. The 7th from the left shows an upward arrow. That’s the one to click to upload a jpeg.

Yes.

But was it adjusted correctly?

By the way, to upload an image, click on this icon above your message.

Tester

Neighbor had a 66 mustang and 2010 mustang gt next to each other in garage. The newer mustang was much larger. Or, the 66 was tiny. I bet the top of the 2010 rear spoiler was 1’ higher then 66 trunklid

BTW, only use ethanol free (non ethanol) gas in your Mustang until fuel system is upgraded to ethanol compatible components.

I suggest you join the Orange County Mustang Club mentioned by wentwest.

There are tons of aftermarket parts and modifications available for first generation Mustangs.
The manual drum brakes require adjusting your driving habits, plenty of space between you and the car in front of you, slow down early.

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Saw video of English owner going thru MOT process for older car with drum brakes. They have a rolling Dyno that measures stopping force at each wheel. He failed as left/right front brakes were >10% difference. He adjusted front shoes and he passed. Interesting that most folks don’t know how to balance drum brake performance.

Interesting ? Seriously , how many people have drum brakes that need to be adjusted these days ?

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@Stock66 Two very important things you will need to know owning a mid 60’s classic car…

  1. Make sure at every oil change either a ZINC oil additive is added (I use Lucas Engine Break-In Oil Additive ) or a special oil is used that already has Zinc in it or you will kill your camshaft and lifters… Exception is if it has had an aftermarket roller cam installed…

  2. Is you need to run a lead fuel additive as your engine did not originally come with hardened exhaust seats, unless they were added later by a machine shop, the old gas was leaded and was safe for un hardened exhaust seats (in the cylinder heads), but with todays (since about 1975) gas being unleaded, it is possible it could/will damage the exhaust valve seats…

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These work great for adjusting drum brakes as well for measuring rotor diameter when the rotor is still on the vehicle…

Tons of rear drum brakes still on the road today, they need adjusting when changing or when doing a clean and adjust…

They actually inspect things in England to try and keep crap off the roads. I know lots of lazy folks complain about safety inspections on the east coast. Maybe it’s a big govt dislike? Or actually maintaining cars as they age? You’d think mechanics would like it.

Stock66:
Reading this makes me wonder if something was done incorrectly in the brake job.

I drove lots of different cars of that era with drum brakes and no booster. I don’t ever recall feeling the above concern about being able to stop.

Thanks Old Mopar Guy.
For daily driving I have a Jeep Cherokee and for elegant driving I have a stunning Jaguar XK.
My father recently passed away and the Mustang was his although both my sister and I first learned to drive in it and drove it to and from high school before buying our own cars. My mom and dad bought it off the showroom floor in 1966 so it is all sentimental to me. I will enjoy driving it again but I have to make sure I don’t slam into the back of anyone because the brakes are so slow to stop.

After attending at the classic car meet this weekend and all the comments here my sister and I are going back to the shop tomorrow to discuss changing out the drum brakes they used to disk brakes. Not sure why they didn’t suggest the disk brakes in the first place.

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Please also keep in mind a popular saying within the old car hobby: “it’s only original once”.

As a guy who has had a drivers license since 1964 and one who actually drove a 64 Mustang (64 and a half they called it) and owned several cars from that era, heres my take.

On a cold start, push the gas pedal down 3/4 of the way and let up. It should start right away. If it starts and sputters or puts out black smoke, you need a new pull off valve. It is vacuum operated, has a rubber diaphragm which is prone to rot every decade or so and is not part of a rebuild kit. They don’t cost much and are easy to replace.

On a hot start, do not touch the gas, just turn the key, it should start right up. IF you flood the engine, which is easy to do on a hot start, then with the key off, push the gas pedal to the floor and hold it there for thirty seconds. After the thirty seconds, keep you foot on the floor and turn the key. The first crank generally clears out the flooding, it will start on the second cranking sound. It will start and rev up very quickly so get that foot off the gas the second it starts to prevent damage to the engine.

Now for the brakes. The brakes were very adequate for 1965. The reason that cars of that era didn’t stop fast was the tires, not the brakes. You could easily lock up any street tires from that era. If you put a booster on drum brakes, it makes them very touchy, especially on a light car like the Mustang.

Two things today make the brakes feel less adequate. The tire are a lot better and don’t lock up so quickly. You can add a lot more pressure to the brakes before reaching lockup so it feels like they don’t work as well.

Second is that brakes do not use asbestos anymore. The new friction materials do not work as well so more pressure is needed. Couple that with the fact the the best friction materials, the ceramics and carbon fiber friction materials aren’t available for brake shoes. If you can find sintered metallic shoes, they work better, but they do need a little more pressure when cold.

IIRC, the early Mustangs also had a single cylinder master cylinder. They work just fine, but they do not have a backup like a dual master cylinder does. If you stay all original, just be sure to meticlously maintain those brakes. If you find a good trustworthy mechanic, have him/her check those brakes at least once a year.

A couple of more things, you will need to have a tune up (plugs, points, condensor and rotor) every year or 12k miles. New air filter every year or 12k miles. Oil change and oil filter and chassis lube every 3k or 3 months if used as a daily driver. Not used as a daily drive, then 3k or one year. Coolant change every 3 years.

Mustangs were one of the first cars to get permanently lubricated steering joints, you will need a mechanic to check if yours are that kind, if so then you won’t need a chassis lube.

Selling has never been an option


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Gonna switch out the drum brakes to disk.

I finally found the upload icon.

I’ve decided to just have the repair shop put on disk brakes regardless of the cost. Nothing is more important than stopping when I need to.

Do i need them all the way around or just on the front?