Yes - at least here in OK. On the other hand in the socialist republic of California… good luck.
In fact I’d say the number of stations selling “100% gasoline” here have increased over the last year. Maybe 1/3 sell pure gas now - and really advertise the fact.
You might check stations around lakes - boats and ethanol gasoline don’t mix. Or ask your neighborhood lawn guys, they don’t want to wipe out their equipment with the junk either.
In NH it’s illegal to use marine fuel in a car. Automotive fuel is taxed higher.
So go inside, and pay them the auto price for the tax man. Or just get it in plastic containers, take it home, and fill up if you are so afraid of the government.
Jeez people on the coasts - wake up before America ceases to exist!
Maybe he isn’t afraid of the government. Maybe he looks at paying his taxes as the honorable thing to do. What you propose is dishonest.
I don’t think there is any chance America will cease to exist. After all, America is made up of two continents (North America and South America). If you are referring to the United States of America, what is happening now is the result of the will of the people. If you are not one of the people whose vote was a part of the majority, try not to be so bitter.
Whitey - I suggested that he try and pay the extra tax difference first. I can’t see why they would be upset if you did that, it’s perfect common sense (and all they really care about it the money anyway). If a gallon of marine fuel has $0.30 tax, and auto fuel $0.45 tax, pay $0.15 extra a gallon to get the good fuel. But then common sense and government don’t often mix any more.
Yes, I’m bitter. More of the America (country) I fought for in the military is disappearing every day (our hard won liberty and freedoms). Glad you like our Czar happy president and Chinese debt loving congress who can’t be bothered to read a bill before voting on it to spend our money. Yes, America - where the constitution and laws apply to others, and not those in power. No, I don’t like it at all. I especially feel sorry for my kids who really get the short end of the stick.
I now understand why the founding fathers rebelled against England. But there are too many lemmings for that to happen here now I’m afraid. Time will tell.
If it happened now, it would be called treason, not revolution. King George (of England) was a tyrant and a dictator. Obama is our democratically elected President. Your comparison is weak. The current President took office with record deficits already in place. Where was your criticism when Bush invaded Iraq? That has added at least four of five hundred billion dollars to the deficit. When republicans were in control, they passed just as many unread bills.
Don’t try to blame democrats for our debt. When Bush took office in 2001, Bush inherited a record surplus from Clinton. When he left office in January of this year, he left record deficits and a whole host of problems to be solved.
I am not a fan of deficit spending either, but you behave as though democrats are responsible for the problems and debt we have now. I guess your memory is so short you can only remember the last five months.
This is how democracy works. This is how freedom works. If you don’t like it, get organized and work to get Obama voted out in 2012. Doing anything else makes you sound like a whiny bitter sore loser.
hallkbrdz, your kids got the short end if the stick with Bush’s tax cuts too. They will be paying the interest on the deficit spending caused by those tax cuts for a long time. Where was your outrage back then?
Hallkbrdz, you may run your life the way you choose and I’ll run mine the way I choose. I too served this country in time of war, and I’m uncomfortable with much of what I see going on, but because I choose to try to live honestly does not make me a lemming.
The question was simply about 100% gasoline without ethanol. I was unaware that it was still available anywhere. JT was kind enough to answer my question. You suggested me getting my gas at a marine pump. I pointed out that that’s illegal in NH and you saw fit to go off on a tirade, and implied that because I wasn’t getting marine gas in plastic cans and taking it home to fill my car in order to avoid paying fuel taxes I must be a weak lemming.
I think you should perhaps cut back on the caffeine. You are WAY out of line here.
A Little history…When the sale of Leaded Gasoline was BANNED, the oil companies were left with an extra, unused pump on the island. They quickly filled that vacuum with Unleaded Premium which at the time cost 5 or 6 cents more a gallon. It was rated at 91 or 92 octane, the same as the old leaded regular. and consumers scoffed at paying extra money for little or nothing. At the time, not a single car on the road REQUIRED this marginal octane improvement over the 87 octane “Unleaded Regular”. A few people bought it, thinking it was “somehow better for their car”. It should be noted that the older pre-1975 cars that ran on 90 octane “Regular Leaded” gasoline ran fine on the new 87 octane “Unleaded Regular”. As promised, the 3 point octane drop did not cause any massive complaints of spark knock or detonation…Most engines could tolerate that minor difference.
Today, motorists are asked to pay 20-30 cents more for those same 4 or 5 octane points and believe their engines will be DESTROYED if they DARE feed it anything less…But the fact remains. Very few cars MUST HAVE premium fuel in order to survive, and these pumps have become profit centers for the oil companies…
Hallkbirdz should realize that most of us have slipped in a political reference or two on occasion. However, people who insist on using this forum for extreme political rants, and those who make personal attacks on other members are not usually tolerated for very long by the moderators.
The most recent example of what I am referring to was only a few days ago. The OP in that case began with a somewhat odd posting and then in his follow-up posts, he proceeded to veer off into political rants, character assassination, and defamatory statements about other forum members. That particular person is now apparently blocked from this site, so if hallkbrdz wishes to remain here to discuss automotive topics, he might want to bear this information in mind.
In some cases the Premium fuel get’s a higher-than-the-law requires dose of detergent. But at the same time the minimum amount of required detergent is more than enough for a most cars.
Here’s a collection what manufactuers say on the matter
http://www.ethanolrfa.org/resource/warranty/documents/2006AutoManufacturerFuelRecommendations04-18-06.pdf
It does stand to reason that uncontrolled explosions (knocking) in an engine could lead to engine damage sooner or later. Also in cars with forced induction (and without Direct Injection) premium fuel is almost always a requirement. However lately some manufactures have come out with turbocharged engines that only require 87 octane. The new Volvo SUV has a turbocharged engine that only calls for 87 octane, and I think Saab does as well. A few years ago when I was working for Nissan they were making supercharged Nissan Frontier pickups. The ECU would only allow the supercharger to effectively function if 91 octane fuel or better was in the tank, if you used 87 octane, a relief valve stayed open so no boost would form. When that happened the truck had the power of a low-compression V6.
What octane is posted on pumps dispensing E-85 fuel??
Depending on composition and source, E85 has an octane rating of 100?105[12] compared to regular gasoline’s typical rating of 85?93. This allows it to be used in higher compression engines which tend to produce more power per unit of displacement than their gasoline counterparts. Since the reciprocating mass of the engine increases in proportion to the displacement of the engine E85 has a higher potential efficiency for an engine of equal power.
E-85 does have very high octane, that is one of the benefits of it. But since there is less energy per gallon, and mileage typically takes a 30% or sometimes greater hit when operating on it ( Vs. regular gasoline) and your engine needs special seals/gaskets/etc. to tolerate the E85, it’s usually more financially advantageous to stick with straight gasoline or E10. For competition use where mileage isn’t important E85’s high octane does allow for much more aggressive engine tuning.
Dinnertime?? Braekfast??? HA HA, you two are too funny.Why hasn’t Leno caught your act in Vegas. Or, do you guys ghost write for Jerry Seinfeld now that Rodney is gone. Oh! Picture everyone’s side splitting!
Well I know of people who will run regular in a Supercharged Nissan pickup for example because you dont really need the high test. Well we know thats BS,just because a engine will compensate for it with about a 10 percent power loss doesnt make it right.If you are going to be a cheapskate with the fuel,why spend the extra money for the premium engine to begin with?It is called being pennywise and pound foolish.-Kevin
Where do my replies go?I’ll try again,in my area a few vendors sell “straight gas” my Dodge Dakota runs great on 10% blend,but mileage suffers-Kevin