Still silly. Pull them over, give them a warning. They’ll be ok. If the cop smells weed, etc, investigate further. If it’s just a tail light out, give them a warning, tell them to have a good night or whatever and let it stop there. We make things so complicated these days.
At the end of the day, if you’re violating the law somehow, it kinda is what it is, no matter how you feel about getting pulled over.
Not you as in you specifically, but you get the idea.
People generally drive the speed they find comfortable. It is based on confidence in the car, surrounding conditions, sight lines and everything else as perceived by the drivers. The SAE has researched this as has NHSTA and ASCE. The proper way to set speed limits is the 85th percentile rule. If the 85th percentile driver is driving at 75 mph, the speed limit is set to 75 mph. There will be speeders. There will be those that drive slower. The Autobahn unlimited stretches proves this out as do stretches of US roads with speed limits set arbitrarily low.
That is why the 55 mph speed limit was pretty much ignored and why prior to the 55 mph limit, traffic rarely exceeded the 70 mph limit on highways. Late 60s and early 70s car were not that powerful and did not generally feel comfortable at greater than 70 mph. Modern cars do.
Yep. It’s not that they want to go x-mph over. It’s that people have gone nuts during the pandemic and now want to go 100mph no matter what. It’s insane out there sometimes.
one of the reasons cops would pull over vehicles for minor stuff was because when they did they were finding drivers with no license/insurance or illegal guns in the vehicle. plus sometimes enough drugs that were going to be used for sale. if you get pulled over and you did not do anything wrong just follow their directions instead or arguing and you wont have a problem.
Unless you can provide a link to a credible news source, I rank your “I heard” as bogus.
+1
While this can be a curse as well as a blessing, even an econobox of recent manufacture can be reasonably competent at speeds of 70+. Those who persist in driving vehicles that are 20-30 years old probably can’t identify with this reality.
Why Philadelphia is banning police stops for minor traffic violations : NPR
Philadelphia passes bill barring cops from minor traffic stops (nypost.com)
Pennsylvania has annual safety inspections. Why should the police pull people over for minors violations like this if the vehicle will have to pass inspection every 12 months?
Maryland does allow the police to pull drivers over for safety violations, but we don’t have annual safety inspections. The state legislature did consider instituting annual safety inspections, but the compromise ended up being that the police could do safety stops for obvious violations.
Rules like this wouldn’t have to be instituted if the police didn’t racially profile drivers and use safety stops as an excuse to shake someone down. Stops for smelling marijuana are especially bad. It’s not only subjective, but the odor evidence is gone quickly enough that a driver complaint is meaningless.
That is the way I drive.
I can identify as my daily driver is 31years old but I have had it long enough to know what it is capable of.
so if someone is driving with no headlights they should not be stopped? at least to tell them to put them on or do not drive at not until fixed. what about no brake lights?
Minor violations. You just picked a major safety problem IMO.
This is unfortunately not true for all of the population.
Did I miss where it said no headlights at night is considered “minor?”
I drive at the speed I think I can get away with driving. I think the majority of other people do too. That speed will drop with the speed limit. I can’t get away with 80 mph in a 55 mph zone. But…I probably can in a 70 mph zone. For example. If people are driving/going to drive the same speed whether the speed limit is 55 or 70…seems like a lack of enforcement issue to me.
I didn’t read the articles. Was “minor” defined?
If cops or the person being pulled over (assuming it is indeed only a minor traffic violation) would always act the way they’re supposed to, it wouldn’t be an issue. Perfect world scenario, I know. Ain’t happening 100% this side of heaven!
Our state no longer has state inspections. So, if you don’t get pulled over and told your tag light is out, or whatever, I guess we will all just have to ignore it.
If a cop harasses people for no reason during a routine stop, it seems to me it’d be better to find out early and weed that guy out before he winds up in a high intensity situation and creates a real problem.
The new legislation bans stops for:
Yeah…I don’t agree with it. “Hey, guys. Don’t forget the violations that you’re not supposed to enforce vs the ones that you are.” Whatever. I’m kind of a “the law is the law” guy, with some leniency. No harm pointing out the infraction, though. Even if you were to feel threatened by the cops…if they don’t actually do anything to you, your feelings do not concern me. If they are indeed threatening, they need to be dealt with anyway.
I hope this doesn’t turn political…. I thought it might, but on an entirely different topic!
We’ve drifted from EV’s a bit.
The state of Oregon was interested in similar police restrictions but the bill didn’t pass.
“The bill prohibits officers from pulling people over for minor violations, like a single taillight, headlight or break light out.”
I agree you should not get a ticket for a bulb out. you could leave your home with everything working and go out while you are driving. but I do not see anything wrong with a cop pulling you over and telling you about it and giving you a warning to get it fixed. most people do not check their lights every time they get into their vehicle. so 1 light out can soon be both out if no one tells you or you don’t check for it. and then you have some people who just don’t care if their lights work or not. as long as they get from A to B.
75 in a 55 will get you 4 hours of traffic court in IL with no ticket on record,
Yes you are right my estimate of a daily driver electric car using 24kWh per day is too high, but 1000 miles per month is closer to reality for an average vehicle, not 500. The whole point of the EV is to use it as much as possible and only use the fuel vehicle when charging is not practical. 1000 per month is 33.3 miles per day driven. Using your .346 kWh per mile for an average EV, 33.3 * .346 kWh = 11.5 kWh extra per day for electricity. So if every household had one EV on average, it would be 11.5 kWh in addition to the US national average of 28.9 kWh. The USA would need 40% more electricity for the average home. And I totally neglected to account for the residential electricity use only being about 37% of the national consumption Electricity is used for commercial and industrial purposes too. .37 * 1.4 = .518. and .518 - .37 = .148. So if I did this correctly it means if every household had 1 EV it would increase our nation wide electricity consumption by about 15% Thanks for correcting me.
When I actually am wrong about something, the usual trolls don’t jump all over me. Kind of funny isn’t it?