Keep in mind that the backup camera will be on ALL 2017 model cars in the US. This isn’t just something on the Mirage. That being said, owners of the current Mirage with one say it is well-done and not too intrusive or a distraction.
Where have you been . . . ?!
Ed has repeatedly asked you if all Mitusbishi Mirages manual transmissions feel crunchy when shifting gears
My Brothers girl friend has a "Verona " nice car ,runs good ,but some of the battery drain issues would drive you nuts ,I dont know why Suzuki ever threw in with Daewoo (or why GM would have either) but that aside some of their stuff seems to be pretty good ,had a Daewoo TV ,I had no complaints about and I see Daewoo construction equipment from time to time
What I see wrong with the Verrsa is that Nissan tried to make a cheaper Sentra .
Sorry, I have been SWAMPED with work so haven’t had time for forums as much over the past week. The good news is I will have the Mirage paid off quite quickly at this rate! Like in a few weeks maybe!
As for the manual transmission, the gears seem fine on mine and the one my GF has. No crunchy gears or anything. One thing I DID notice is that the clutch adjustment seemed a little high. It is just a turn nut like on the Metro. Both mine and my GF’s were set too high if you ask me. I was worried about burning out the throwout bearing and/or the clutch so set the engage point closer to the floor. I adjusted until there was just a tiny bit of play in the lever and called it good. The cable was tight and under load before.
This wouldn’t make the transmission shift rough where too low might. Maybe some came out with the opposite problem. The transmission does seem like it had a slight break in period and shifts smoother after 500 or so miles. Maybe this is what he is talking about.
I plan to change the engine oil and manual transmission fluid at about 3000 miles to get rid of the break in metals.
I am pretty sure the Verona is just a bigger version of the Forenza. The Forenza/Reno my GF had seemed to have a weak electrical system also so maybe that was the issue with your battery drain. I never saw this on the list of complaints about these cars but we had all the major ones. It always got some random check engine light. I simply cleared the code and would ignore it as it was never the same check engine light as the first step. I replaced the battery connectors and the rate of random check engine lights dropped so that was part of the issue. If the same check engine light came back on again, then I actually began to consider whatever code it was as the actual problem. Otherwise it was just a random code. You clear it and it would never come back with the same one again.
I have seen the Daewoo TVs and construction equipment. They were a huge conglomerate like Hitachi before splitting up. You have to remember that two of the leading TV brands, LG and Samsung, are also from Korea. LG used to be “Lucky Goldstar”. That stuff was junk but they have sure come a long way as LG is one of the brands I seek out when buying electronics. Now it says “Life’s Good” on the box so the kept the same initials but not the cheap sounding name.
LG is one of the brands I seek out when buying electronics
Yeah, these are the guys that two years ago told me tough noogies when my high end TV display panel cr@pped out less than a month outside the warranty period. Not one concession or even an acknowledgment of concern on their part. The guy ends the call with- thanks for being a loyal customer. I haven’t bought a thing from them since and go out of my way to NOT buy ANY of their products. Shortly after, I had to outfit a new house with all new appliances too. Liked some of their stuff but bought Samsung instead…
Best of luck to you!
LG is still Lucky Goldstar. They just decided to go by LG because Lucky Goldstar generated too many laughs and did not inspire confidence among Western buyers of their products.
Brands have a habit of changing over time. Sony used to be the top TV brand in terms of picture quality, but the repair record was rather dismal. RCA and GE in the past were respected names; now they are the bottom feeders on Walmart shelves.
LG and Samsung, both Korean are now the best popular priced brands in both electronics and large appliances.
Hyundai went from a bit of a joke the one of the most recommended.
P.S. A rapidly rising brand is Hisense, a purely Chinese make in flat screen TVs. Their market share is now dominant outside of Europe and North America. Even Costco now sticks them and they are fussy!
“RCA and GE in the past were respected names; now they are the bottom feeders on Walmart shelves.”
+1
RCA and GE televisions are both products of Thomson Electronics of France, and they are indeed close to junk status, right out of the box.
And, you can add Westinghouse to that short list of fallen icons.
No, the Westinghouse TVs and appliances of yesteryear were never at the top of the heap, but they were at least of middling quality.
The Westinghouse trademark has been sold so many times that I have no clue regarding who owns it at this point, but–like those RCA and GE products–Westinghouse TVs are sold to those who are shopping only on the basis of price, and who have no clue regarding quality and reliability.
There must also be some consideration as to whether the Mitsubishi brand will outlive the warranty or vice versa.
During the last two weeks my local dealer sold 5 Mirages during this huge sale, the dealer had 17 units, now only 12. Dealers here must sell more vehicles than that without a sale to make a profit. This dealer has 38 2015 and 12 2016 Mitsubishis in stock. It appears they stopped ordering new vehicles, perhaps they will stop offering Mitsubishis at this dealer (they also sell Kia).
Westinghouse is really a big contractor of sorts for the power industry, etc. They make nuclear reactors and such kinda like GE. The consumer crap is just the name and nothing else.
GE is the same way. Some of the consumer stuff is good but others are junk. I hear their support these days has really slipped. I have always had good luck.
As for consumer brands, there are special lines made just for the stores like Lowes, Wal-Mart, etc. as well as those Black Friday sales which are an excuse to sell junk if you ask me. I work on electronics and run into this all the time. The support for these bottom shelf products seems to be lacking where more mainline products of the same brand seems to be better supported. I guess they know they aren’t making any money off that stuff and know that it is best not to spend a lot of time on it. I personally wish this stuff wasn’t an option. Many people buy it only based on the price and then are upset when it breaks right after the warranty. I swear that they make these things to break like that as your story is far from the only one I have heard. Was this a bargain model or not on the LG that broke out of warranty?
As for the Mirage, I wonder if they will really blow these out if any are left right before the release of the 2017 model. The dealer I used still has a few of the 2015 models but they are dwindling. There is only one manual trans left, a white base model DE.
Yes, I took a risk buying this but for this price, how can you go wrong?
Not exactly car related except as to the amount of miles, vehicles, and fuel used for repairs and maintenance but GE builds the wind turbines used in all 4 of the wind farms in my area.
I can’t speak for 3 of them but those things were dropping like flies due to transmission failures in the farm around me. Last count was about 40 out of 140 and just recently one of the units that got a new transmission chucked its replacement transmission again after only a year. It took 29 semi loads of equipment to replace that transmission.
It’s probably a good thing that GE is not building cars.
In the late 1980s GE shut down several appliance lines at Appliance Park in Kentucky. Lucky Goldstar bought almost all of the equipment, moved it to Korea, and dramatically increased their capacity.
I recently had to replace one of the electronic modules in my washing machine. It is a Kenmore as far as the label reads but the part I purchased worked in quite a few different brands so appliances are like cars in that they rebrand the same model under different names. The Daewoo Lacetti being the Suzuki Forenza/Reno in the US is a prime example. It looks like the basic brand of my unit is an Electrolux.
You would think GE would have had experience in building large gearboxes/transmissions for industrial equipment before. They make a lot of the locomotives for the railroads these days. Maybe there is some sort of strange bearing load or vibration that was foreseen in the wind turbine applications. These are kinda new in the large quantities we are now seeing them after all.
I have been seeing lots of lots of semi-loads of large industrial equipment going down the highways lately. I have no idea what this stuff is as it is a small part of something much larger although it is quite large itself. I have wondered if it is wind turbine related but don’t know.
It is a Kenmore as far as the label reads but the part I purchased worked in quite a few different brands so appliances are like cars in that they rebrand the same model under different names.
Kenmore was just a brand name. Kenmore never made anything. It was always made for them by some other company - most recently it’s been Westinghouse.
You would think GE would have had experience in building large gearboxes/transmissions for industrial equipment before.
They do…they just chose NOT to make a good product. Same with many appliance manufacturers. Cheaper is better has been the slogan for decades.
I knew that a lot of Kenmore products are made by someone else. One was a Whirlpool under the hood.
Yes, I know all too well that consumer products have been going the “Cheaper is better route” even if it isn’t better, for years. We have the know how to make the best stuff in all of history but make something just barely good enough to work and be sold in a store.
The articles below are a prime example:
I am surprised that industrial makers are cutting corners. Usually the commercial/professional grade equipment I work on is of much better quality than the consumer junk. This isn’t to say I don’t come across industrial/professional users who decided to substitute consumer grade junk because they thought it was cheap. Yes, it was cheap and now me being here to service it is going to more than offset the savings you thought you had scored by not buying a better product.
Usually the commercial/professional grade equipment I work on is of much better quality than the consumer junk.
I find this to be true also. We owned a Maytag Neptune washer and dryer. The washer was a piece of junk. After 3 years and 4 major repairs…we junked it. From their on-line forum…there were thousands of complaints.
There’s a laundry-mat not too far from us where we go to items like sleeping bags and comforters. Their smaller washers are the commercial grade Maytag Neptune washers. I talked with the owner about them…says they are the most reliable washers they own. After 10 years they are still in use. Looks exactly the same as our washer…but with much better parts.
Yeah well Snapper ended up being bought out and now they sell them at Walmart. Of course they aren’t the same rugged mowers of the past, but the consumerized version for the throw away crowd. I just think these days, trade names are just meaningless. Can’t relate it to anything anymore except the color of the equipment so one might ask why bother putting a name on it at all?
Before the great recession we were in line for a wind generator plant in our town. If I remember right it was a Dutch company and seemed to be one of the larger competitors. Haven’t heard a thing since so not sure where they stand. Maybe they were bought out by somebody. In Western Minnesota, Pipestone I think, there was a struggling generator plant that I think either shut down or cut way back during the same time frame. I thought they were a US brand so maybe was GE or something. I don’t know what that has to do with anything but when do we start rebuilding our industrial base? I can’t see any reason why a Dutch company should out perform a US company. Time to rattle some cages in my personal view. No wonder we have had to talk about a minimum wage increase as a means of closing the income gap. In the past, you’d just get a job at a plant with a lot of overtime and save your money.
Near where I grew up, there was a plant which manufactured components for GM . . . I can’t recall if it was transmissions or steering components.
Anyways, the guys at the factory apparently had jobs to die for. Awesome benefits, plenty of chances for promotion, lots of holidays, overtime, possibilities to pick up new cars for peanuts, etc.
But it was very hard to get such a job, if you weren’t vetted by somebody, or didn’t have a relative or in-law already working there
Generally speaking, factory jobs . . . for huge manufacturers, anyways . . . were much more desirable versus most service jobs. You were pretty much guaranteed lifetime employment. Times have changed, and so have expectations