brought in bunch of parts…
inner + outer tie rods, both control arms, both quick struts, both shocks, and 4 sway bar links. (for complete suspension replacement)
He said its gonna take 9 hours but shouldn’t it realistically take 5-7 hours for a simple honda?
Seeing he’s not going to make any money on the parts,
If you don’t like his 9 hour bid, go somewhere else.
Should i like a 9 hour bid? is suspension job 15 hours by the book, is it only 5? maybe 3 hours.
what would this type of job look like to someone with experience. Its not a 5 minute oil change but after taking wheels and tie rods off and bolting new ones on whats a 30 year old Vet gonna take on a timer?
I have no idea what you are trying to ask . You should have gotten a few estements before you bought the parts. Also the shop will not warranty those parts.
like you know if i watch a youtube video on how to change something itll take me 3-4 hours to get it done
someones whos been in the auto industry for 40-50 years. will swap something out in minutes.
thats what a “vet” means, they dont need youtube videos for an auto repair lol.
How long would that person take to replace suspension.
Shop A: parts $1360. labor 7 hours @ $165.00. $2650 after taxes, shop fees, labor.
Shop B: $285 online suspension parts, 9 hours labor $115. total $1320 (straight cash no fees). selling car in October before snow, dont want warranty for 2 months
(maybe Shop A is only charging 7 hours because there scamming with there autozone priced parts, where shop B is making nothing from parts so maybe juicing on hours?)
maybe @its-me was right. However still not sure how long this repair typically takes a tech to complete.
Yep, Its-me was right. Job only takes 2 hours to complete…. “9 Hours” is just a bid since he isn’t profiting on parts. Guess both shops in my city are dishonest now. Wow.. bad deal.
Thanks man for all your advice. Something felt very off and with your help I found out im being overcharged 4x the labor service.
I mean, a lot of shops are flat-rate. They charge by the book, not by the actual time it takes. If a job books out at 8 hours and it only takes 5 hours, you still pay for the 8 hour book time. Likewise if the book says 8 hours and it takes 11 hours of actual time, you still only pay for 8 hours. This is nothing new or dishonest.
Inner and outer tie rod ends are not suspension parts, they are steering parts.
Labor guide shows 4.6 hours to replace inner and outer tie rod ends, plus wheel alignment.
Replacing inner tie rod ends is more work than you think, this should not be done as preventative maintenance.
Front strut replacement is 3.5 hours, plus alignment.
Additional time for the front lower control arms and rear suspension control arms and shock absorbers.
Why would you want to perform all these repairs on a vehicle that you won’t be driving much longer?
See that long bolt?
It took over 12 hours to remove the one bolt so the rear radius arms could be replaced on a Camry.
And I have all the tools.
When it comes to replacing suspension/steering components on a vehicle as old as yours you can’t go by the book.
Tester
To be honest, I wouldnt wanna lemon sell this car w/o repairs knowing the dangers.
Sure i can leave the suspension thats been bad for 8 months now, but what if the tie rods snaps on the highway after he buys it and gets seriously hurt? Would that be liability on my part? it definitely would be mentally.
Also the second its in drive it makes 1920 wooden floor creaking sounds, The shocks are blown so the car just bounces. Everytime they will turn the ball joint will scream for mercy since its been about 8-10 months since the parts started going bad.
on KBB original suspension and car has 128,000 miles on 15 year old parts (that drives in winter + salt) I think suspension is good for 75,000? so way past expected life expectancy i guess.
Yeah, I can SMELL the AI sheen all over that “2-4 hour” suspension estimate. 
Thank you Tester, Fodaddy, Nevada for telling me the book time is accurate. Google made it seem like i was being scammed, and shop A was only charging for 7 hours, something felt off but Fodaddy explained how the pricing works.
lol thats why i posted instead of trusting google/AI crap now xD
Do you have any knowledge of how this car was droven before you took it over?
My 109,000 mile 2010 Accord suspension is still rock solid, noise wise and no jounce.
It’s probably a lot more loosened up than when it first rolled off the dealer lot 15 years ago, and I’m sure some critical indicators are approaching wear limits. If I drive it another two to three years I will have suspension evaluated, before it can get even near the condition of the Civic you’re describing.
I wish there was a Google acct setting to keep AI answer from appearing at all in our results.
Yeah the old man i bought it from was up to no good….
After he paid a trackshop $14,000 to install a turbo kit, upgraed fuel injectiors and pump, coil overs, carbon fiber hoods trunks, grill, carbon fiber spoiler, down piped mangaflow exhaust, fully tinted 20%….
you get the point this old man obviously degenerate got her maxed out for the engine not sending rod to the moon. what happenend after they got her done???
He definitely ripped it on the tracks
Also I’m more degenerate then the first owner, take corners hot since the coil-overs handled super well until i cooked them. oh dear
It is a street racer with a modified engine. That car will be in a salvage yard before long.
Very sad, because Hondas in general, and Accord and Civic in particular, are among the top five most reliable work-horse cars this distance from the sun.
