You might need snowshoes to get through on 90 inches of snow. 
Dagosa: āDonāt hang your hat on the Bills still being on fire in November.ā
I never do.
A āfantasticā job in Rochester? Has to be UR or Wegmans 
Oh how I miss Wegmansā¦
Isnāt Kodak still there in Rochester??
āIsnāt Kodak still there in Rochester??ā
Sort of. The film business crashed and burned several years ago. They sold their aerospace business to ITT. Kodak does not build their digital cameras in Rochester, either.
But they still build Industrial Printers.
Plus the Military end of Kodak.
re:Kodak,
Did you know they made a backup mirror for the Hubble Space Telescope? The primary mirror was made by Perkin Elmer, and it was perfectly ground to the wrong prescription. All their quality checks told them it was wrong, but they decided that it was their testing methods that were wrong, so the flew the bad mirror. As part of the process to diagnose and correct the problem, the Kodak mirror was examined, but to avoid embarrassing PE and NASA, its measurements have never been publicly released.
Kodak and Xerox, two great Rochester companies nearly swept away by the technological tides.
Kodak and Xerox, two great Rochester companies nearly swept away by the technological tides.
Xerox did it to themselvesā¦
Xerox should be the leader in the Computer industryā¦Some 30 years one VP brought together 30 of some of the Best people in the computer field together to created a āThink Tankā called PARC (Palo Alto Research Center). Xerox PARC invented modern desktop computing.
Just a few of their inventions.
. Windowsā¦Yes people think it was Apple. Microsoft stole it from Appleā¦but Apple stole it from Xerox.
. OOP (Object Oriented Programming). Almost all modern computer languages are Object Oriented Languages. This doesnāt mean much to people not in this fieldā¦But believe me it was a huge leap in programming and design.
. WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get). Totally new concept in creating products like Word. For the first time you could actually see the finished product on you computer screen before you printed it out.
. Ethernet ā¦All computers today who connect up to a network via a LAN card are connecting via Ethernet. Originally designed by ARPA and implemented by Xerox after AT&T and IBM turned it down because they didnāt pack network systems worked. Now almost all public network systems are packet systems.
Xerox should have owned the PC industry. But upper management had no idea what to do with the technology. So they sat on it for years. Then they showed it to Appleā¦and the rest is history.
āPlus the Military end of Kodak.ā
Thatās the part that ITT bought. It was sold to generate cash to allow them to get into the digital camera business.
And I remember all the Mac-o-philes getting angry when Xerox sued Apple for taking the look and feel of the Xerox graphical interface. But it was OK when Apple sued Microsoft for doing the same thing. Actually, the Xerox CEO at the time said that he was not inclined to sue Apple until Apple sued Microsoft. But when he saw the way the trial was going at the time, he decided he better do it before the shareholders had him fired for dereliction of duty.
I will make one comment. Most everyone who moves to an area where there will be more snow than they are accustomed to starts by looking for 4WD for safety. However 4WD will NOT reduce the chance of sliding off the road or loosing traction. 4WD may help you get out of the ditch once you slide into it however.
Good modern winter tyres will help you avoid loosing control or getting stuck. Worry more about stopping and sliding off the road than not being able to get out of the ditch. Sliding off the road (or into the car in front of you) is far more dangerous than being stuck in a ditch.
Those of us who have a lot of snow and ice experience also, hopefully adjust their driving style and speed to maintain their safety.However 4WD will NOT reduce the chance of sliding off the road or loosing traction. 4WD may help you get out of the ditch once you slide into it however.
And you are 100% WRONGā¦Sorryā¦Josephā¦unlike youā¦Iāve been driving 4wd for over 30 yearsā¦It will definitely keep you on the road and moving far far better then rwd or fwd on snowy roads. Especially on snowy hills or before the plows have even been out.
Those of us who have a lot of snow and ice experience also, hopefully adjust their driving style and speed to maintain their safety.
40+ years hereā¦And where I grew upā¦one winter there is equivalent to 10 winters here in NH.
āHowever, 4 wd will not reduce the chance of you sliding off the roadā¦ā
With all due respect, this is a flatlander statement.
I agree with Mike. I drive awd cars, 4 wd trucks and tractors, 4 wheelers, snow mobiles, fwd cars and rwd trucksā¦etc on a mountain EVERY day (though not all in the same day) over ice and snow in the winter. Fwd shows some advantage to rwd cars and trucks starting off on level ground with itās weight over the wheelsā¦thatās it. Awd, 4 wd and even a well prepared rwd all have directional stability control advantage over fwd cars. This is especially true going up hills when making a corner and you canāt slow down as you must retain momentum to make the hill. We canāt leave our HS physics education in the class room and forget to apply it to real life.
Joseph_E_Meehan wrote:
However 4WD will NOT reduce the chance of sliding off the road
Iām afraid I disagree with you here.
First, when climbing a hill, a 2WD car may need to be driven pretty fast at the bottom and it may be spinning tires at the top. Both of those carry some risk of losing control. Furthermore, if a 2WD car doesnāt make the hill, backing down definitely can result in going off the road.
Second, if a car does start to slide off the road onto a lower shoulder with the back end further out than the front, an AWD car would be able to climb back onto the road more easily than a 2WD car, probably preventing a trip into the ditch.