@“Ed Frugal”
“the real shame is so many working class people are anti-Union. People are like crabs. When you go crabbing you don’t have to put a lid on the bucket you throw the crabs in because if any of the crabs try to crawl out, the rest of them will pull him back down. So if you have 2 people doing similar work, one is Union with decent pay, benefits, pension and the other is barely ekeing out a living, the second person will actively root for the first one to lose his/her job because “he’s overpaid and lazy” instead of trying to get him/herself a Union and pull him/herself UP to the level of the first person”
I agree wholeheartedly with you, and I personally know what you’re talking about, because I’m currently a civil service union fleet mechanic . . . the most overpaid, most incompetent, lowest standard, laziest type of worker, according to some people . . . but before that, I worked as a mechanic for a dealer. The exact opposite of my current jobs, in so many ways
I did observe exactly what you’re saying. People in the private sector were LOUDLY bad-mouthing unions. They were saying they take your money, don’t do anything, and union workers are lazy, can’t get fired, don’t have to be accountable, are overpaid, the benefits are too good, it’s not fair, etc.
I did my own research, and concluded that is the type of job I should actively try to get. Guess what happened . . . it took me YEARS to get that union job I currently have. Tests were only held every few years, and hundreds of guys would show up, to compete for a few jobs. The first few times, I either didn’t score high enough, or the eligibility list expired, before they called me. It’s not as if any darn loser can walk up and get a job. The bottom line . . . all those times I didn’t get in, I just wasn’t good enough. I gained experience at my job, studied, etc., and when I was good enough, I passed the test with a good score, and was hired.
Oh, I thought of something else. Passing the test isn’t the only thing. There’s a panel interview. There were some guys that did well on the test, only to somehow make a poor impression during the interview. They didn’t get in.
The whiners should do their own research, and they’ll conclude that the jobs aren’t just handed out. You have to earn the job, and when they don’t get in the first time, STFU
And the whiners should come and see my and my colleagues work. They won’t see any slackers, not in my shop, anyways.
In my opinion, many of the whiners just take it at face value that organized must be a bad thing, because “everybody” says so. Yet only a few are smart enough to do their own homework
I’ll say something else . . . when I was at the dealer, the colleagues that weren’t bad-mouthing unions jobs, were usually the ones that were studying, paying attention, and actively trying to get those kinds of jobs for themselves.
If you want something better for yourself, you have to work for it
Whining about somebody else’s job isn’t going to get you more money and benefits
As you said, whining can only result in that other person maybe losing his benefits, and maybe even his job.
Then when that happens, the whiner won’t have anything to show for it. He won’t have a fatter paycheck, better benefits, etc. You’re right . . . some people are only happy when they’re bringing somebody else down
When I finally did get my current job, some of my colleagues quietly told me that they’re amazed that I had such willpower, to not give up and keep trying to get that other job, even if it took years, which it did
Enough ranting
Maybe somebody will flag me as troll, off-topic, spam, etc. 