I’ll start right out with sarc. I don’t know much about AI but have no doubt the fast computations and gathering of information can have great benefits to the medical and engineering fields. What concerns me though is how do I know you folks are real or just generated by AI? You look real but then a lot of stuff looks real on the internet. At some point we’re going to have to have some way to prove it. Maybe SSN or something. Oh wait that’s not real. Just askin for a friend.
Yes! Plus, bank account numbers and bank routing information, home address, the name of the family pet, and the schools from which a forum member graduated!
from what I’ve read, that’s one way that interviewers discriminate against old(er) job-seekers
Ask them what year they graduated from college
and then the interviewer often has a good idea how old the candidate is
And the job-seeker will just be ghosted. No rejection letter, no phone call, no texts, no emails
Crickets
And that’s how they find out ageism has weeded them out once again
I know a few people who were middle-aged or more and really struggled to find a job
The dead silence was how they knew they didn’t get the job
And they usually found out a MUCH younger and rawer candidate had been hired
Just had our 60th high school reunion. It would be a math test for HR. Yeah there were four of us 50 ish and three got eliminated. All guys at the mercy of a younger woman. Later though she cried real tears when she got eliminated for making a big mess.
@bing I have no idea what you are trying to say with that post or what it has to do with AI.
A summary of his 60th high school class reunion; a women made and mess, cried and was eliminated.
Perhaps too many topics in one paragraph.
I believe the point was not to offer personal information that may have been used for identity verification for business accounts.
Bingo! What I described–in jest–describes how someone could potentially reveal the answers to security questions, thereby compromising their accounts.
Try to keep up. The comment was made that HR will ask when you graduated as a way to determine a persons age which they can’t ask. I just had my 60th so do the math.
20 plus years before that I just related my own experience with agism. Nothing to do with the reunion. The lady that made the decision cried when they bounced her out because she didn’t know how she would pay for her new house. Karma. She drove to work if that helps.
VDC volunteered to provide his banking information to prove he was a real person and not AI. I’m not sure about the rest of you. AI doesn’t get humor.
No. I would never volunteer my banking info. Try to keep up.
MY point was to not answer the question when you graduated college . . .
Because it may be used AGAINST you when applying to jobs
This whole thing was kinda in jest. I would never ask for personal information and he would never give it. Plus I don’t intend to ever work fir anyone again.
Why does it matter?
If I’m looking for information, I really don’t care about the source. I’m going to use my own judgement and other inputs to determine the validity of the information I receive. There’s risk with information received regardless of the source.
If I’m engaged in a discussion, it doesn’t really matter either if the exchange is fruitful.
I recently had an experience with the front end of a car dealership that turned out to be an AI type of “receptionist”. It was almost impossible to distinguish it from a real person. I figured it out when it kept responding that my information had been forwarded to sales but no one ever called me back. Once I got ahold of someone in sales, they admitted it was an automated system. I mentioned they could be losing sales because of it but doubt that went anywhere either…
+1 Circa 2021, there were a lot of people who did their health-related “research” on the internet, and who accepted the validity of the info that they found, but who later found out that the info was bogus. More than likely, the source of the misinformation was a person, rather than AI.
As a retired manager I can assure you that you are NOT allowed to ask any question that could be used to guess some ones age. Asking what year they graduated from college is one of those questions. It may be considered legal, but can open the company to an age discrimination lawsuit. Most if not all companies I know will NOT ask that question. If they want to volunteer that information - fine.
Unfortunately, many folks in the heat of the moment do share personal information…
I teach a computer class at my local Senior Center and besides instructing them to never respond to email asking them to verify personal information. Phone calls are another area of concern is dealing with Fraud that we cover, we even bring in a police officer to discuss the hazards of these calls…
Never say “Yes,” “No,” or state your name when answering an unknown call. Never confirm personal details (Social Security number, passwords, account numbers), and do not agree to make payments via wire transfer, cryptocurrency, or gift cards. Hang up immediately and verify the claim by calling the organization directly.
Words and Phrases to Avoid…
Do not answer “Yes”, “No”, “Okay”, “I agree”; Scammers frequently ask, “Can you hear me?” or make statements to get you to say these words. They record your voice to authorize fraudulent charges or forge verbal agreements. Simply hang up.
Never answer “Yes” to your own name: When answering, simply say “Hello.” Answering with “Yes, this is [Your Name]” verifies your identity and active line to scammers.
Also, never answer “No”: If a caller asks if you are a specific person, avoid saying “No,” as they can use this to probe further or extract other identifying information.
And perhaps the most heart wrenching call is from a “police officer” informing you that your grandson/granddaughter has been arrested and needs bail money. Take a Deep Breath, thank them, get their phone number, then call you your grandson/granddaughter/their parents in an attempt to locate them and call the local police to verify the “police officer” and their phone and number.
The “police officer” will most likely hang up and you will find your grandchild is probably still sleeping in bed…
Unfortunately, they frequently do more than that. A DA from Long Island recently publicized a scam to which several senior citizens had fallen prey. They got a pop-up on their home computer, informing them to phone their bank. The phone number was not for their bank, and the scammer(s) to whom they spoke told them that their banking information had been compromised, and that the only way to “protect” their money was to withdraw cash from their account, purchase gold bars, and then to meet a guy in a parking lot in order to turn-over the gold.
And, to make matters worse, some of these befuddled seniors did this several times over the space of a few months. One woman lost more than $300k, because she repeatedly cooperated with the scam.
I know that people do tend to panic when their life savings are involved, but believing that you should protect your savings–by turning-over gold bars to anonymous strangers in a parking lot–is mind-boggling to me.
Are you suggesting UV light applied rectally did not work?
I’m told that it didn’t work, but a friend said that he really enjoyed a Clorox Cosmopolitan… before he died from chlorine poisoning.
Vdc is joking everyone. I normally would not believe what people fall for but the recent widow of a long time friend, both retired educators, was on her way to the bank to withdraw $20,000 in cash. She had been told by one of the cable providers that sh3 needed to pay him. I don’t remember exactly who anymore. At any rate her neighbor intervened when she asked what she was doing.
I ordered a book last night from Amazon. I must have screwed up the password the first time because the second time generated a text with a code to verify my identity. I didn’t mind at all.
I usually ask who they are, then ask why they called.