Ford 1 L engine failures

[Tester]

As the old song goes, “You’ve got your troubles, I’ve got mine.”

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Tester

[wolyrobb]

Certain full size of trucks it’s easier to lift the cab off the frame ti have room. To work on the engine but not on a Ridgeline. We have the marine cousin to that v6 from 2009 but you’re doing engine work on dry land. Probably closer to $200 for the local Honda Marine dealers service call.

[MikeInNH]

@vipergg

I know I won’t buy a car without a chain . I have never known the chains to be noisy and have driven them till like 170000 miles and never had an issue. I do change the oil right at 5000 miles.

If you only drive 170k miles then you should be fine. Timing chains last a lot longer today then they use to. I’ve had to replace a noisy chain in years past at under 200k miles.

@vipergg

I read somewhere that on Hondas v6 for their Ridgeline pickup they have to pull the whole cab off to do it , what’s that got to cost if true ?

That’s NOT true.

[MikeInNH]

Dave’s garage did a teardown of the 6.2 L87 engine. Seems only the L87 is affected.

Here’s the link. It seems the major problem is the crank NOT being polished correctly. The video I posted is a good watch - about 40 minutes long.

[davesmopar]

@vipergg

I read somewhere that on Hondas v6 for their Ridgeline pickup they have to pull the whole cab off to do it , what’s that got to cost if true ?

Give me the year(s) and I will be glad to look up the labor times for doing a timing belt kit for you, but I’m not looking it up 18-20 times cause it’s been out since what 2006 except for 2 years?..

I’m not a Ridgeline guru, so not gonna guess at anything… lol

[bcohen2010]

@vipergg

I read somewhere that on Hondas v6 for their Ridgeline pickup they have to pull the whole cab off to do it , what’s that got to cost if true ?

That is not true, and the Ridgeline is a unibody construction, so removing the cab would not be possible anyways. You are thinking about certain Ford Super Duty models, which actually do require removing the cab to perform certain engine repairs, such as replacing the timing chains (plural) or removing the cylinder heads. I was amazed when I saw that, because how could anyone be foolish enough to buy a vehicle designed like this?

[wolyrobb]

fotd f250 with body lifted off for service

[jtsanders]

It’s certainly easy to work on. How long does it take to lift the body off the F250?

[wolyrobb]

Photo was an example found online but on the diesel trucks it’s quicker than trying to get to the timing chain with the body on. About 6hts labor added but my understanding it’s quicker and easier with open access. Repair bills on a friend’s powerstroke F250 kept us from getting our own.

[texases]

@wolyrobb

Repair bills on a friend’s powerstroke F250 kept us from getting our own.

Went to the Dallas auto show several years ago. The Ford area had one of those with the hood open. I couldn’t see any major part of the engine, just lots of wires, hoses, shields, etc.

Of course many cars aren’t any better.

[davesmopar]

@texases

Of course many cars aren’t any better

Exactly, plenty of vehicles with transverse engines and even some modern RWD (DOHC) V6/V8 engine cars are much easier to just drop the subframe or for some trucks to just raise the cab to access the engine for repairs… Not much more different to raise the cab off the chassis vs drop a subframe after all said and done…

But most could (probably) still be done with the engine still in the vehicle but could be a nightmare vs just dropping the subframe or raising the cab to make access to the (rear) engine and bellhousing bolts much easier and well worth it to a lot of/most mechanics…

I think the key distinction is “does the factory procedure require cab/subframe removal??” versus “is cab/subframe removal the sane way to do it??”

I learned many decades ago, sometimes it is much easier to remove something than to work around it a lot of times…

But then again I could be way off on this subject…