Electric Vehicles, Yes or No?

That’s the current plan here in Calif. I’m not overly concerned myself. First, it is much easier for a state politician to claim that is the plan to be implemented some time later; but not so easy to actually do it. Politicians will be concerned about loss of votes. Second, in the unusual event such a thing actually occurred, if not wanting an EV, many used gasoline vehicles will remain available. Eventually EV’s may be all that’s available new or used, but likely a very long time for that.

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I wouldn’t buy a Tesla now but one positive is that they must be quite safe in a crash. This is an old story but was recently reminded of it. A guy tried to kill himself and his family by driving over a cliff and didn’t succeed. Tesla may have some bugs to work out but crash safety seems to be a high point.

It’s a puzzle why Mr Patel would do something like that? Say he had made a bad decision, cost him his fortune, wife said would leave b/c he had no money. Wouldn’t better solution be to let wife leave if that’s what she wants, and Patel become a member of homeless population until eventually gets back on feet?

There will likely come a point that the federal government will pass a law preventing the use of ICE powered cars on public roads, or simply banning the sale of gasoline, like the ban on the sale of R12 refrigerant.

Possibly. But not in my lifetime. Maybe when my kids are in the 70’s or 80’s.

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I wish I was as confident about that as you. I could see this happening much sooner than we expect.

If EVs take over, that will be unnecessary. Just like a 1908 Model T is not banned from the roads, not even in California. That occasional antique car with no pollution controls whatsoever does not do enough harm to matter, just like the occasional Cessna 172 flying through the sky. However, if millions of people start restoring Model Ts for their everyday commute, laws would definitely be changed.

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There’s way too much to happen before we’re all EV’s. The VAST majority of car drivers will need to own an EV. The govt isn’t going to mandate no ICE vehicles while the most people are still driving them. It’s going to be a gradual turn over. It’s going to take years before even a small majority of vehicles are EVs. Currently they’re at less than 1%.

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There are 275 million licensed vehicles on road that use gas. Diesel too. And I bet there are many more unlicensed sitting in yards. Almost more cars than guns. Nah, there are more guns. I think they will sell gas for a long time.

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The gubermint might ban horse drawn carriages on interstate highways! The end is near.

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Yup!
The credo of a LOT of people is…
When in fear, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout
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You probably remember the Sylvester Stallone, Wesley Snipes, Sandra Bullock movie, “Demolition Man” and you may understand the phrase, “All restaurants are Taco Bell…” and you might even want to figure out how the “three seashells” work and then they can tell us that the government will not outlaw ICE Vehicles…

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Has it ever occurred to you that not everyone watches as much Television and movies as you seem to do ?

To answer your question, Nope… But perhaps you are a reader, have you read George Orwell’s classic novel, “1984?” They also did a movie about it… (L :laughing: L)

So, if you read or watched this classic, don’t you see a bit of Orwell’s world where human freedom has been crushed in this closely monitored society where there is no escape from Big Brother.

(Maybe I should not have said that…)

Then again, for the other readers of this post who do watch TV; do you remember Jerry Seinfeld’s “Soup Nazi?” “No Soup for You!”

Well, There will be a day when…


You Can Have Soup, But No Gas!!!

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I think this quote could be rewritten today with a reference to social media inserted.

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I just saw this. I really do feel a range extender is a good idea and would be the ONLY way I would consider an EV at this time. This is how the Chevy Volt operated and I think it only makes sense. MAybe in the future the charging infrastructure, power grid, and all will be ready but they aren’t yet.

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Yep, he just got the year wrong.

Yeah and don’t forget animal farm. Also it helps to read about the history of Orwell and how he developed his opinions.

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In Sacramento, California, a Tesla model S caught fire while moving; that’s right, just driving down the road, no accident, no unsafe speed, just being used like it should be used…

It took the fire department over an hour to put out the fire, they used and estimated 6,000 gallon of water, and they had to use special jacks to lift the car up so they had access to the battery underneath.

We all know that California was in a terrible drought until recently, and the recent rains have only delayed the restrictions that were being proposed. I really do not think that California wants to be known for intensifying the draught situation by using so much of their precious water putting out fires in the latest Mandate to go all EV…

If you also watch the included videos in this link, the fire department is recommending that an EV has to be monitored for hours and even days afterwards in case of re-ignition. Oh, that sure Is not going to delay clearing the highway of an accidents, and they go on to recommend that the EV be kept away from anything flammable and even propped up to aid the fire department if the battery re-ignites for days after the fire.

Naw, I don’t see any problems here…

I posted a link here about EV car fires and how they are so hard to deal with. I also mentioned that a different battery chemistry could be used to reduce the risk of this by a huge amount. This is going to become a bigger problem as more EVs are sold and on the road and feel something will have to be done.