Yeah I ment a bus used by Boy Scout troops. I could have been clearer. A lot of them had troop trailers and other equipment but then invariably someone would say how nice it would be to have a bus to load the kids and pull the trailer. My vote was always a no. I’d rather have five cars going than one bus, even though not always easy to arrange the cars.
Never noticed but 401. I can go on and on again on this subject. I don’t want anyone killed but I’d rather have five killed in a tragic accident than 30 when a tire blows, the driver has a heart attack, and so on.
Because, had you read the post, it infers a bus used to transport church goers or Scouts, Our church used the same van for both. Frankly , I preferred what our church used prior to the van, a Cadillac factory limousine.
This is the first I have ever heard of Scout microbus service. The “used in the south” comment just muddies the water, my church was in Minneapolis.
I am sorry that you are upset! I regret asking you a rhetorical question!
But for the life of me, I do not understand why you would question if it was a “boy scout bus” or a girl scout bus"… Don’t boy scouts and girl scouts ride the same type of bus, and maybe even in the same bus, where you are located?
My dense brain assumed “Scout” to be a reference to the manufacturer, not to the organizations. But since the mention of Scouts (boys, girls, or utility vehicles) seems to be raising the temperature in here, let’s cool things off:
Are cars since model yr 2020 programmed to fail at such frequency as to bring you back to the dealer more often?
It was the way the question was phrased… Notice that you used “and” the OP used “or” as if there are two classes of busses… I treat both boy scouts and girl scout troops equally and have taught Drone Classes to both the Boys and the Girl Scouts.
They can both earn the Aviation Merit Badge, which includes building/flying a UAV and getting FAA TRUST certified.
For too long I have seen the girls treated like they are made of “Sugar and Spice…” My wife and I both went to school together and in the early '60s we were in the 7th and 8th grade and he boys took Shop Class (table saws, band saws, wood turning lathes, etc…) and we made lamps, cutting boards, small tables, etc… My wife had to take “Home Ec” and they used a sewing machine to make a skirt, and an oven to bake cookies…
And I for one do not separate girls from boys just because of their gender…
That article you shared seems to convey almost a “Corvairesque” image of 10-15 passenger full- sized vans. (Dodge Ram Wagon, Ford Econoline, Chevrolet (Chevy Van, Express).
I believe that if the followng conditions are met:
Passenger load stays within GVWR of said van. Partial passenger load occupies front rows as per the article, rearmost seat removed if significant cargo (luggage, picnic lunch etc.) is being carried.
Under-hood mechanicals are regularly checked, maintained, and if necessary, serviced at regular intervals.
Tires: Correct size, category (LT) all matching, recent date code, and with adequate tread remaining, correct van-specified cold tire pressure
Van is driven conservatively - at or within posted speed limits (I know you all h a t e me for stating such), turns and lane changes taken at reduced speeds, as well as driving in precipitation.
Van drivers remain undistracted as much as possible - no phone use, assign a van ‘DJ’ to handle the stereo and phone calls as well as navigation, and the driver partake in as little conversation as possible.
Then passenger transport via such vans should be no problem.
I was mainly thinking of school buses or converted buses. I know you need to pass a separate school bus test for a license that may include a driving test I don’t know. I also don’t know if an annual health exam is required like for the passenger buses. I just think a church is not in a position to have a certified healthy driver and side kick available or someone that can insure the above conditions are met.
