# You might want to hold-off **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 18, 2022, 3:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/you-might-want-to-hold-off/187989 "2022-12-18T15:05:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![cwatkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@cwatkin](https://community.cartalk.com/u/cwatkin)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 2:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/you-might-want-to-hold-off/187989/21 "2022-12-22T14:44:34Z")
I remember reading about some cars from India and China trying to make it in the US a few years ago. It was probably a decade or more and I have heard very little since so guess it didn’t happen. I remember one was to be sold at Wal-Mart and that was going to be the dealer network. Again, it was some super cheap car from China or India. It is probably best this didn’t happen. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 2:58pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/you-might-want-to-hold-off/187989/22 "2022-12-22T14:58:17Z")
> [@cwatkin](#): > > I remember reading about some cars from India and China trying to make it in the US a few years ago. It was probably a decade or more and I have heard very little since so guess it didn’t happen. The Buick Envision, which is sold in The US, is made in China: > **[Buick Envision](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buick_Envision)** > > The Buick Envision is a compact crossover SUV manufactured by General Motors and marketed under the Buick brand since 2022. It is exclusively manufactured in China by the SAIC-GM joint venture, supplying the Chinese and North American markets. > The Envision was first introduced in 2011 as a design concept. It was a small crossover with two large scissor doors opening upward. The concept was a plug-in hybrid with advanced technology such as a solar roof and head-up display. The waterfall grille ... Additionally, the Volvo S90 sedans sold in The US are manufactured in China: > **[Where Are Volvos Made? Not All Come From Sweden](https://www.motortrend.com/features/where-is-volvo-made/?slide=4)** > > Did you know that not every Volvo sold in the United States comes from Sweden? Some of the places where Volvo cars are made might surprise you. ---
**Author:** ![cwatkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@cwatkin](https://community.cartalk.com/u/cwatkin)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 3:06pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/you-might-want-to-hold-off/187989/23 "2022-12-22T15:06:26Z")
I was aware of this. I think even some Mercedes might be made in China. I was talking about basically cars that would make the Mitsubishi Mirage I own look like a well-made luxury car. I think maybe getting them to meet US crash standards, emissions, or both was the dealbreaker for these. ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 4:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/you-might-want-to-hold-off/187989/24 "2022-12-22T16:01:16Z")
Well, Ev cars don’t have to deal with emissions. Which is nice. ---
**Author:** ![p.g.i.holmes\_156524](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@p.g.i.holmes\_156524](https://community.cartalk.com/u/p.g.i.holmes_156524)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 7:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/you-might-want-to-hold-off/187989/25 "2022-12-22T19:29:28Z")
> [@Cavell](#): > > Asian ev? Why not. They make all the batteries anyways. Just like solar panels. Seriously?? “These Asians make that so those Asians can make this.” Reminds me of the very apt and pointed joke about the Titanic and the punchline “Iceberg / Goldberg, what’s the difference??” ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 10:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/you-might-want-to-hold-off/187989/26 "2022-12-22T22:57:54Z")
Wifey bought a Prius so I guess I’m not adverse to ev tech. It’s gone now so there is that. I have no plans of buying a new ev. A used ev seems fraught with danger. ---
**Author:** ![oldtimer-11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e79b87/32.png) [@oldtimer-11](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldtimer-11)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 4:48am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/you-might-want-to-hold-off/187989/27 "2022-12-23T04:48:51Z")
I was in Europe 10 years ago Spent 5 days in Switzerland, 5 In the Irish Republic and 2 in Paris. Flew into France, high speed train to Switzerland flew to Ireland and back to Paris. Three of us and nobody took our passports. ---
**Author:** ![Ekrols\_182563](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/47e85d/32.png) [@Ekrols\_182563](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Ekrols_182563)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 9:06am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/you-might-want-to-hold-off/187989/28 "2022-12-25T09:06:28Z")
Perhaps you went to Europe 20 years ago. Hitels don’t keep your passport anymore. They just scan it. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 2:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/you-might-want-to-hold-off/187989/29 "2025-08-16T14:09:46Z")
Apparently Vinfast’s management finally agrees with the automotive writer who stated that their vehicles were, “simply not ready for America”. Apparently, they’re not ready for Europe, either. > **[VinFast Pivots Away From America And Europe](https://insideevs.com/news/768917/critical-mateirals-aug-13-2025/)** > > VinFast's losses have it pivoting toward countries like the Philippines and Indonesia. Also, used EV sales are way, way up for July. [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/you-might-want-to-hold-off/187989.md?page=1)