You cannot go over the speed limit to pass another vehicle

Thus confirming what I believe:

That the vast majority of drivers, in America at least. interpret posted speed limits as the MINIMUM speed they should be driving.

The fact that many local and state law enforcement officials tolerate 10 or 15mph over posted before pursuing someone only encourages this belief.

We live in both a country and in times where “wrong is considered right”, and vice versa. The reverence for the law, and obedience, are now obolete concepts.

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Most states won’t even blink if you’re doing under 75 in a 65. I also usually cruise at about 72. Passed many state troopers in NH, MA and NY - nothing.

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Why do you continue to waste your time and your energy stating–again and again and again–something that nobody in this forum agrees with?

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So it’s the culture here. Even those whose job it is to enforce speed limits and to discipline violators are infected by it.

I fully understand a tolerance of 5mph - speedometers are not perfect instruments. And sometimes people change tire and wheel sizes aftermarket, which can throw off speedo readings one way or the other.

Perhaps, you are residing in the wrong country.
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Oh BULL💩…

People can be decent and law-abiding anywhere, if they put their minds to it.

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I have said that openly many times on here… some people just can’t grasp the fact that (mostly) nobody cares what they are saying…
Like a whacked out pastor preaching a sermon that nobody agrees with to an empty church… :man_facepalming:

Yup!
In a town where I used to live, there were some residents who belonged to a religious sect that believed in “public preaching”. Every Saturday morning, a group of them would gather on the same street corner, and one of them would SHOUT a few quotes from the Bible for a few minutes while the others stood mutely. Then, one of the others would change places with the first guy, and he would SHOUT same lines for a few minutes. Lather, rinse, repeat… for a few hours.

The bottom line is that, after a while, most of the folks in town knew that they should simply avoid that corner on Saturday mornings. Those who couldn’t avoid that corner just drove or walked past while laughing at the useless public display that was being performed.

And, at last report, nobody was “converted”…

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99.99999999% of people who drive 10mph over the speed limit ARE law-abiding citizens. Your extremely NARROW view of what a law-abiding citizen is just WRONG. If the police arrested/ticketed for every minor infraction. the courts/jails would be filled to the brim within days.

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I was a month ago verbally warned by local LEO for a ‘rolling’ stop at a 3-way stop.

If it improved and encouraged me to pay more attn. and stop fully, then they made a difference.

Sometimes if LEO, occasionally, lowered the hammer on something minor, might give folks some pause.

And no, I don’t judge law-abiding solely by their backward interpretation of “speed limit”.

But you did.

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Driving the speed-limit or a little under the speed limit in moderate heavy traffic when everyone else is going 5+ over the speed limit is extremely more dangerous than someone doing 90 on empty highway. I drive for SAFETY.

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There’s definitely cultural differences in driving and parking behavior. In some countries where car ownership is mostly for the privileged class, you just park where you like. As long as you move your car when asked, perfectly ok to block your neighbor’s driveway or double park. In a commercial area, you can double park on the street or even in a shopping mall parking lot as long as you leave your car in neutral and the brakes off so a driver boxed in can push your car out of the way.

Heh heh. My first good look at a smart car was parked on the sidewalk outside the Anne frank house. Right next to the canal. I was looking for a cup of coffee but the coffee house next door didn’t sell coffee. Different culture. I just couldn’t understand why someone would buy something like that. Better than a bike I guess in Amsterdam.

In my subdivision, we have a main drag, a two lane divided road with a 25 MPH speed limit.

As you can see in the fraphic, each lane is really only wide enough for one vehicle to travel at a time. Both directions have a Bike Lane on it and since we have pretty good police patrols traveling through, it is relatively safe for even kids to ride their bicycles. However, it is very often used as a walking path as the shoulders drop off to open drains.

The weird thing is we also have Bicycle Groups traversing our neighborhood, you know the type, $2,000 plus for bicycles, Matching Racing outfits that would be the envy of any rider participating in the French “Tour de France”,

They come racing down our road in groups of 5, 10, and even more, at 30+ MPH (technically speeding…) and they scream at anyone walking on the bike path and they even seem to try to clip any walker they pass…

Oh, we call the police, but they are long gone and it does not happen often enough for the police to plan stake-out…

It is times like this that I wish I had the “Roll’n Coal” feature on my Diesel Ram…

I’m familiar with the first scenario as this is how people park in Jamaica, but the second scenario I haven’t seen or knew about. It’s interesting. I wonder if those people experience car theft more frequently ?

I was talking with a friend who is an avid biker, even biked all over Europe. Somehow the patrolman that gave me a ticket about 1976 came up. He is a mutual acquaintance. The friend complained that he just about got run over by the patrolman on a bike path. He was riding his horse. Maybe some day we’ll need both bike and horse lanes. Color coded I hope.

On the state park path where I like to hike, there are signs stating
something along the lines of… Bikes should yield to pedestrians, and both bikes and pedestrians should yield to horses.

When I encounter a horse and rider, I always move as far off the trail as possible, and I stay stationary until they have passed. I have observed that the bikers rarely extend this courtesy to equestrians, and–in fact–I have almost been flattened by bikes on a couple of occasions while I was hiking.

So much for suggestions posted on signs…