# WORST tire brands

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/worst-tire-brands/187973>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [December 17, 2022, 5:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/worst-tire-brands/187973 "2022-12-17T17:56:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![cwatkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@cwatkin](https://community.cartalk.com/u/cwatkin)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 2:27pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/worst-tire-brands/187973/41 "2022-12-22T14:27:49Z")

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I think that played into the Firestone tire mess with Ford. The tires were not perfect but the fact Ford specified such a low pressure brought out the defects which would have never been an issue at proper inflation. The more you look into this, the more you think Ford deserved the same blame as the tire maker.

I do the same thing with keeping my tires at or above the suggested pressure by a tad. You get better mileage and less tire wear than running them near the low end of the scale.

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**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 3:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/worst-tire-brands/187973/42 "2022-12-22T15:16:48Z")

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The PSI Ford specified was on the low side, especially when equipped with 235/75 tires-26 PSI. The problem arose when owners allowed tires to fall below the specified PSI.  
My truck specifies 35 PSI, I had minor feathering of the L front tire that was not cured by alignment, increasing PSI to 38 lbs eliminated the feathering. Those tires were Wranglers, just switched to Michelins, only a few hundred miles on them running at 35PSI, if feathering occurs will increase to 38 pounds.

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 3:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/worst-tire-brands/187973/43 "2022-12-22T15:44:59Z")

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Firstone took a hit with the Ford mess… but they make good tires. The OE tire on my truck was Firestone Destination LE. At 50K, I replaced them with another set. At 100K a third set. I changed brands at 145K. The Kuhmos I put on ride OK but they are noisier and get worse fuel mileage. I wish I’d bought another set of LEs.

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**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 3:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/worst-tire-brands/187973/44 "2022-12-22T15:50:35Z")

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True, in 2001 purchase a new Ranger, it came with Firestones, they were fine.

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 3:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/worst-tire-brands/187973/45 "2022-12-22T15:54:10Z")

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Yeah, the Explorer tire problem was more wrong specifications than poor quality.

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**Author:** ![JoeMario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@JoeMario](https://community.cartalk.com/u/JoeMario)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 4:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/worst-tire-brands/187973/46 "2022-12-22T16:09:48Z")

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re: “the Firestone problem” of years ago.

Wasn’t it due to this?

> [@Driving with a slightly bulged tire is dangerous?](https://community.cartalk.com/t/driving-with-a-slightly-bulged-tire-is-dangerous/181365/36):
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> And just so everyone knows, the problem with the Firestone tires in 1978 was a chemical they (and everyone else) used to promote adhesion of rubber to steel - HMT (hexamethylenetetramine). In the presence of water, it turns into an acid - and it turns out that water vapor can diffuse through rubber. Firestone was the last to discover the problem and replace that chemical - and that’s why the successor to the Firestone 500, (the Firestone 721) also had the problem. The way the company handled…

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**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 4:12pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/worst-tire-brands/187973/47 "2022-12-22T16:12:50Z")

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Wifey was driving equinox with kumho tires. \<50% tread. She said it was fine in snow. She is now driving torrent with +75% tread GY assurance tires and hates it. Says it’s too loose. I disagree. Both were/are awd.

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**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 5:00pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/worst-tire-brands/187973/48 "2022-12-22T17:00:30Z")

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> [@Mustangman](#):
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> Firestone Destination LE

That’s a great tire. I put a set of Coopers on my SUV because I got a good price. They are fine tires, but if I still have the car when I need tires again I will go back to the Desty LE.

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**Author:** ![CapriRacer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/capriracer/32/22_2.png) [@CapriRacer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/CapriRacer)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 7:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/worst-tire-brands/187973/49 "2022-12-22T19:20:19Z")

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Just to be clear, there have been 2 Firestone problems. One in 1978 involving the Firestone 500, and the other in 2000, involving the Ford Explorer. In both cases, Firestone’s management didn’t handle things well - sort of a textbook example of what not to do.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 8:10pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/worst-tire-brands/187973/50 "2022-12-22T20:10:34Z")

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> [@CapriRacer](#):
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> there have been 2 Firestone problems. One in 1978 involving the Firestone 500, and the other in 2000, involving the Ford Explorer

IIRC, there have been 3 Firestone fiascos.  
When the 500s were recalled, they were replaced with the newer-design 721.  
The 721 developed a history of tread separations, but–luckily–they weren’t quite as dangerous as the flawed 500s.

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**Author:** ![p.g.i.holmes\_156524](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@p.g.i.holmes\_156524](https://community.cartalk.com/u/p.g.i.holmes_156524)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 8:31pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/worst-tire-brands/187973/51 "2022-12-22T20:31:49Z")

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Hankook do make great tires, they also make some terrible ones.  
The K125 is a superb passenger car tire - check the reviews.

I used to run the RA08 8-ply tyre on a van which were absolutely superb. However when they “upgraded” the design that tire would wear out fast, was noisy after a year and harsh riding. I changed to a Chinese tire brand (Neuton) than had come on a BMW I bought which drove extremely well. Those were a 275 wide sports tire but thought I’d try their commercial LT tire. Those turned out to be far, far better overall, especially grip in the wet, than the supposedly premium (their words) Hankooks.

There are definitely cheap tires out there that are very good but unfortunately it either takes personal trial and error, trusted recommendations or large-dataset-reviews to find out what they are.

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**Author:** ![p.g.i.holmes\_156524](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@p.g.i.holmes\_156524](https://community.cartalk.com/u/p.g.i.holmes_156524)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 8:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/worst-tire-brands/187973/52 "2022-12-22T20:48:24Z")

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**Author:** ![PvtPublic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/pvtpublic/32/13089_2.png) [@PvtPublic](https://community.cartalk.com/u/PvtPublic)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 8:55pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/worst-tire-brands/187973/53 "2022-12-22T20:55:57Z")

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> [@p.g.i.holmes\_156524](#):
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> [Whoops not sure why this posted. Deleted.]

Just as I was getting ready to reply, damnit

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**Author:** ![PvtPublic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/pvtpublic/32/13089_2.png) [@PvtPublic](https://community.cartalk.com/u/PvtPublic)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 8:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/worst-tire-brands/187973/54 "2022-12-22T20:59:13Z")

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> [@p.g.i.holmes\_156524](#):
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> changed to a Chinese tire brand (Neuton)

You sure they are from china? YHI is based in Singapore.

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**Author:** ![keith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/keith/32/5518_2.png) [@keith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/keith)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 9:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/worst-tire-brands/187973/55 "2022-12-22T21:01:50Z")

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> [@cwatkin](#):
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> I got him up to Windows 10 which is supported for another 2+ years but after that, it will need to go.

Why didn’t you upgrade him to Linux, it would still be working today.

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**Author:** ![p.g.i.holmes\_156524](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@p.g.i.holmes\_156524](https://community.cartalk.com/u/p.g.i.holmes_156524)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 9:31pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/worst-tire-brands/187973/56 "2022-12-22T21:31:24Z")

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Indeed. But not manufactured in Singapore. My use of “Chinese tires” was the generic as the broad colloquial. I think they’re made in Thailand and Indonesia by existing manufacturers in factories by the very same large “name brand” manufacturers.

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**Author:** ![p.g.i.holmes\_156524](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@p.g.i.holmes\_156524](https://community.cartalk.com/u/p.g.i.holmes_156524)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 9:37pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/worst-tire-brands/187973/57 "2022-12-22T21:37:18Z")

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The tires that came on the car I bought were the NT8000. As well as the van tires I actually put a set of NT512 on my old BMW E46. They are as good as the Bridgestones that were on it previously.

Hard to argue against price when the performance matches up too.

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**Author:** ![37chev](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/94ad74/32.png) [@37chev](https://community.cartalk.com/u/37chev)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 2:23am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/worst-tire-brands/187973/58 "2022-12-24T02:23:30Z")

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Try touch screens with damaged AND arthritic hands/fingers. Out of the line of vision and impossible to manage. Designed by young techies for young techies.

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**Author:** ![37chev](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/94ad74/32.png) [@37chev](https://community.cartalk.com/u/37chev)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 2:28am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/worst-tire-brands/187973/59 "2022-12-24T02:28:33Z")

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I ran $8 670x15’s on my 50 chevy for many years. Nowadays tire dealers won’t even sell you one tire as a replacement. Sue- ers have taken over the world

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 4:28pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/worst-tire-brands/187973/60 "2022-12-24T16:28:13Z")

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> [@37chev](#):
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> Nowadays tire dealers won’t even sell you one tire as a replacement. Sue- ers have taken over the world

Bull. They do it all the time. The ones that won’t are the just giving you some line of bull to force you to buy 2 tires instead of one.

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