# When and why are cigarette lighters and ash trays no longer in vehicles? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 29, 2020, 1:11pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/when-and-why-are-cigarette-lighters-and-ash-trays-no-longer-in-vehicles/169315 "2020-08-29T13:11:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 83
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/when-and-why-are-cigarette-lighters-and-ash-trays-no-longer-in-vehicles/169315/83 "2020-09-06T23:16:22Z")
> [@Beancounter](#): > > By the 1970’s most of the public considered these “essentials” so the automakers made them standard but by the 1990’s with smoking down and an opportunity to save a couple of cents, manufacturers started deleting the “smoking accessories”. When I was living in europe, AC was considered a luxury feature Anyways, over the years, only 2 of our cars had AC, but all the others still had cigarette lighters and ashtrays, even the truly bare bones cars without power steering or power brakes Earlier, I had mentioned that I used to smoke once upon a time But I never smoked in any of our cars . . . I wonder if that’s common, as far as smokers and/or ex-smokers goes thus, none of our cars ever had a problem with that “yellowed” headliner my grandmother was a lifelong smoker, and she most definitely smoked in all of her various cars. And they all had that “yellowed” headliner --- _[View the full topic](https://community.cartalk.com/t/when-and-why-are-cigarette-lighters-and-ash-trays-no-longer-in-vehicles/169315)._