# What is the successor to Dexron II ATF? **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Tags:** honda\ **Created:** [November 17, 2016, 12:49am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-successor-to-dexron-ii-atf/96521 "2016-11-17T00:49:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![2davidc8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/ecc23a/32.png) [@2davidc8](https://community.cartalk.com/u/2davidc8)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 12:49am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-successor-to-dexron-ii-atf/96521/1 "2016-11-17T00:49:27Z")
My car’s manual calls for Dexron II Automatic Transmission Fluid. The car is 25 years old. What is the equivalent specification today? (I expect that ATF specs, like motor oil specs, have changed over the years.) Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 12:57am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-successor-to-dexron-ii-atf/96521/2 "2016-11-17T00:57:26Z")
Here’s the latest Honda tranny fluid. > **[Amazon.com: Genuine Honda Fluid 08200-9008 ATF-DW1 Automatic Transmission Fluid - 1 Quart: Automotive](https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Honda-08200-9008-Automatic-Transmission/dp/B0089LSMSE)** > > Honda genuine fluids are the exact original equipment manufacturer (OEM) fluids that your vehicle came with. When you select a genuine OEM fluid - you can rely on the high quality and effectiveness of ... Just make sure it’s compatible with the tranny clutches. Tester ---
**Author:** ![BillRussell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/billrussell/32/3179_2.png) [@BillRussell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/BillRussell)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 1:02am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-successor-to-dexron-ii-atf/96521/3 "2016-11-17T01:02:12Z")
Tester: That ad does NOT say it is a replacement for all Honda vehicles. it hints at it but does not make a definitive statement. So I’d ask a dealer what to use. ---
**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 1:28am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-successor-to-dexron-ii-atf/96521/4 "2016-11-17T01:28:05Z")
> [@Tester](#): > > Just make sure it’s compatible with the tranny clutches. What didn’t you understand about that statement? Tester ---
**Author:** ![monkarl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@monkarl](https://community.cartalk.com/u/monkarl)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 3:01am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-successor-to-dexron-ii-atf/96521/5 "2016-11-17T03:01:31Z")
I would also ask the dealer on what Honda ATF is compatible. Honda transmissions are somewhat finicky when it comes to fluids. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 3:49am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-successor-to-dexron-ii-atf/96521/6 "2016-11-17T03:49:57Z")
Well . . . Dexron 2 was eventually superseded by Dexron 3 Genuine Dexron 3 is nla, because GM let the patent expire. But aftermarket Dexron 3 is readily available ---
**Author:** ![circuitsmith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/circuitsmith/32/40376_2.png) [@circuitsmith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/circuitsmith)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 3:08pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-successor-to-dexron-ii-atf/96521/7 "2016-11-17T15:08:13Z")
There’s also Dexron 6. ---
**Author:** ![Hiroshi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5ac83/32.png) [@Hiroshi](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Hiroshi)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 5:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-successor-to-dexron-ii-atf/96521/8 "2016-11-17T17:29:38Z")
Dexron III is the latest but, if you use that in a Honda automatic, you need to add a bottle of LubeGard black bottle… Honda auto’s need a really high slip agent in their ATF or the automatic transmission will shift harsh. Adding one bottle of LubeGard black bottle. with add enough of that agent to make it shift normal.