# What Is The Proper Name For This Placard **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 28, 2023, 3:19am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-proper-name-for-this-placard/193928 "2023-11-28T03:19:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2023, 3:19am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-proper-name-for-this-placard/193928/1 "2023-11-28T03:19:18Z")
Now I know what a Tire & Load Info sticker is - It’s about the same size and often located nearby on the door/B-post. But instead of seating capacity and tire pressures, the placard in question displays date and country of manufacture, VIN, and a variety of gross(max) weight info. But my internet searches for the term for the attached have netted goose eggs for this incompetent Gen-X searcher! ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/1/5/15773b5772f9272e2c7e2ef1f1050a7cf35da52d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2023, 3:25am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-proper-name-for-this-placard/193928/2 "2023-11-28T03:25:01Z")
Vehicle manufacturer certification label. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2023, 4:11am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-proper-name-for-this-placard/193928/3 "2023-11-28T04:11:28Z")
I was searching for what my pathetic mind thought was the best term for the placard: “Build sticker”. Here’s another name I located for it: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/8/b/8b3e24f38810ce95a87fd4e9676643616a77358c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2023, 4:14am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-proper-name-for-this-placard/193928/4 "2023-11-28T04:14:38Z")
Something else I noticed: Most “Cert” labels, on vehicles mfgd since model year 1990, repeat the tire size and cold pressure info provided on the Tire & Load/ SaferyVIN Tire & Load Label. In the cases of my Honda and wifey’s Toyota, that is not the case. What determines if tire info appears on both stickers, or, only on the tire-specific one? ---
**Author:** ![CapriRacer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/capriracer/32/22_2.png) [@CapriRacer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/CapriRacer)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2023, 7:14am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-proper-name-for-this-placard/193928/5 "2023-11-28T07:14:30Z")
> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > Something else I noticed: > > Most “Cert” labels, on vehicles mfgd since model year 1990, repeat the tire size and cold pressure info provided on the Tire & Load/ SaferyVIN Tire & Load Label. > > In the cases of my Honda and wifey’s Toyota, that is not the case. What determines if tire info appears on both stickers, or, only on the tire-specific one? In the old days, the certification label was sometimes used as a 2-in-one label. This was up to the discretion of the car manufacturer. Many car manufacturers haven’t changed, even though the feds require a specific format and separate label for the tire placard. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2023, 11:42am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-proper-name-for-this-placard/193928/6 "2023-11-28T11:42:45Z")
Appreciated! In any case, if we could get more people to pay attention to these placards. There’s a lot of useful information - beyond just tire pressure - on them! 👍 ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2023, 9:13pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-proper-name-for-this-placard/193928/7 "2023-11-28T21:13:34Z")
I’ve always been confused about the GVRW specs. The front and rear added together seems to equal the total, so that makes sense. But what does GVRW stand for? Presumably the GVW part means “gross vehicle weight”. But then what does the “R” mean? I presume it mean “road”. So if GVRW is the maximum road weight, how does the owner figure out how much stuff can be put into the vehicle before exceeding that weight? They’d need to know the vehicle’s weight with everything removed, but that’s not provided on the label. . ---
**Author:** ![weekend-warrior](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/weekend-warrior/32/26122_2.png) [@weekend-warrior](https://community.cartalk.com/u/weekend-warrior)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2023, 9:28pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-proper-name-for-this-placard/193928/8 "2023-11-28T21:28:12Z")
[What Is GVWR? Everything You Need To Know | Let’s Tow That! (letstowthat.com)](https://letstowthat.com/what-is-gvwr/) ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2023, 3:39am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-proper-name-for-this-placard/193928/9 "2023-11-29T03:39:29Z")
I ran some weight checks on the vehicle-supplied tire pressures, and found out that car makers did a pretty good job of making sure that their recommendations exceeded gross axle weight(GAWR) by at minimum 10%. In some cases, 20 to 30% of GAWR. So again people: Overinflate to your heart’s content, but it is NOT necessary! ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2023, 2:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-proper-name-for-this-placard/193928/10 "2023-11-29T14:54:47Z")
> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > So again people: Overinflate to your heart’s content, but it is NOT necessary! Once again: Most of us in this forum are well aware that the vehicle mfr’s inflation specs are more than adequate for the vehicle’s GAWR. Those of us who keep our tires inflated 2-4 psi over the mfr’s spec do so because this practice improves the vehicle’s handling, fuel economy, tread wear, and traction. Additionally, I prefer the ride quality of my car when the tires are 2-4 psi over the vehicle mfr’s specs. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2023, 4:58pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-proper-name-for-this-placard/193928/11 "2023-11-29T16:58:08Z")
Even 3psi over door placard, especially on modern cars with low profile tires a mile wide, makes the steering too light, and sometimes twitchy, for me. As for ride, +3psi and it starts to feel like a pulpwood wagon. And I apologize for not explaining my term “MIBby”: (M)ore (I)s (B)etter! Mibbies believe that more (insert here) is always better. In our context, more air pressure. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2023, 5:26pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-proper-name-for-this-placard/193928/12 "2023-11-29T17:26:48Z")
> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > for me And, others have different preferences, so I fail to see why you continue to harp on this topic. I think that adults are able to read the vehicle mfr’s inflation specs, as well as the readout on their TPMS or tire gauge, and make their own decisions regarding the psi that they prefer. > [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > As for ride, +3psi and it starts to feel like a pulpwood wagon That might be a reflection of your car’s suspension tuning, or its tires, or merely your perceptions. ---
**Author:** ![Rainflurry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cab0a1/32.png) [@Rainflurry](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rainflurry)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2023, 8:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-proper-name-for-this-placard/193928/13 "2023-11-29T20:29:50Z")
> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#): > > So if GVRW is the maximum road weight, how does the owner figure out how much stuff can be put into the vehicle before exceeding that weight? All vehicles since 2006 are required to have the maximum combined weight of passengers and cargo listed on the Tire and Loading Information label. That number should be GVWR less the curb weight of the vehicle. Prior to 2006, you would need to know the curb weight and subtract that from the GVWR, leaving the maximum combined weight of passengers and cargo. Curb weights are published by the manufacturer. ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2023, 9:32pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-proper-name-for-this-placard/193928/14 "2023-11-29T21:32:48Z")
> [@Rainflurry](#): > > Curb weights are published by the manufacturer. The curb weight varies with the options, engine size, transmission, axle, etc. Do the published curb weights for older vehicles account for the various options available? ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2023, 10:24pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-proper-name-for-this-placard/193928/15 "2023-11-29T22:24:05Z")
The original post shows a certification label for a 2004 Toyota, this is what the owner’s manual shows: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/e/1/e19b0c2989ce761a0ca0307bab12eec26d639f92.png) ---
**Author:** ![Rainflurry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cab0a1/32.png) [@Rainflurry](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rainflurry)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 2:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-proper-name-for-this-placard/193928/16 "2023-12-01T14:29:08Z")
> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#): > > The curb weight varies with the options, engine size, transmission, axle, etc. Do the published curb weights for older vehicles account for the various options available? They publish curb weights by trim level, engine/transmission combo, bed length, 2WD, 4WD, AWD, FWD, etc. For newer vehicles, the curb weights are readily published. Can’t say for sure on older models so you may have to dig a little. I tried a 1977 Chevy Monte Carlo and was able to find the curb weights for the two engine options that were available that year. ---
**Author:** ![PvtPublic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/pvtpublic/32/13089_2.png) [@PvtPublic](https://community.cartalk.com/u/PvtPublic)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 10:15am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-proper-name-for-this-placard/193928/17 "2023-12-02T10:15:14Z")
Then along with the usual placards ![IMG_1665](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/0/8/083421ac11e4eefe5080a1919e2308f5dee077e3.jpeg) You may also get an extra bonus sticker ![IMG_1667](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/3/2/325063cc7fb06c1e841decd956d1c4706dafbef2.jpeg) As if 12lbs. will make any appreciable difference. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 2:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-proper-name-for-this-placard/193928/18 "2023-12-02T14:57:36Z")
Alas, federal law requires such disclosure. I don’t mind such regulations if they protect us from our most basic human flaws - greed/ selfishness, and quick-to-dismiss knowledge and scientific facts. ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 7:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-proper-name-for-this-placard/193928/19 "2023-12-02T19:56:40Z")
What modification was done to a vehicle that was big enough to require a Caution sticker but only reduced/changed the load carrying capacity by 12 lbs…?? I mean I have seen hundreds of conversion vans, box trucks etc etc etc, but none that only changed the load by 12 lbs… ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 8:06pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-proper-name-for-this-placard/193928/20 "2023-12-02T20:06:38Z")
Those load capacity reduced labels are required when accessories are added to a vehicle: running boards, roof rack, trailer hitch, etc. [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-is-the-proper-name-for-this-placard/193928.md?page=2)