# What ft/lbs torque? 2008 Expedition with F-150 rims

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-ft-lbs-torque-2008-expedition-with-f-150-rims/57404>\
**Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\
**Tags:** ford, expedition\
**Created:** [November 10, 2010, 6:23pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-ft-lbs-torque-2008-expedition-with-f-150-rims/57404 "2010-11-10T18:23:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Robert-Gift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/robert-gift/32/356_2.png) [@Robert-Gift](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Robert-Gift)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 6:23pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-ft-lbs-torque-2008-expedition-with-f-150-rims/57404/1 "2010-11-10T18:23:28Z")

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When winter storm, we plan to take off the Expedition’s 18-inch M&S tired wheels and put on 17-inch F-150 alloy rims on which aggressive snow tires are mounted.  
  
 Can I tighten by hand/feel with Expedition’s lug wrench, or should we buy a torque wrench?  
  
 Thank you.  
  
 Robert

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**Author:** ![Bladecutter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aeb1de/32.png) [@Bladecutter](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Bladecutter)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 6:30pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-ft-lbs-torque-2008-expedition-with-f-150-rims/57404/2 "2010-11-10T18:30:03Z")

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Always use a torque wrench with alloy wheels, and check your owners manual for the proper torque spec.

BC.

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**Author:** ![willey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a9adbd/32.png) [@willey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/willey)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 6:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-ft-lbs-torque-2008-expedition-with-f-150-rims/57404/3 "2010-11-10T18:48:17Z")

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150 foot pounds.

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**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 7:53pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-ft-lbs-torque-2008-expedition-with-f-150-rims/57404/4 "2010-11-10T19:53:50Z")

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Buy the darn torque wrench you cheap \*\*\*\*\*\*\*! Then get it calibrated every so often.

That may seem harsh to some of you, but Mr. Gift has earned a reputation as someone who posts questions with his mind already made-up, at least in my opinion.

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**Author:** ![Robert-Gift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/robert-gift/32/356_2.png) [@Robert-Gift](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Robert-Gift)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 9:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-ft-lbs-torque-2008-expedition-with-f-150-rims/57404/5 "2010-11-10T21:07:53Z")

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I AM cheap!  
All my life I have been hand-tightening.  
One of our volunteers, like Bladecutter, says to use a torque wrench especially on alloy wheels.

Calibrated?

I’m so cheap that I’d get a three-foot long pipe and put 50 lbs of free-weights on it if that would work.

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**Author:** ![tardis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@tardis](https://community.cartalk.com/u/tardis)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 9:11pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-ft-lbs-torque-2008-expedition-with-f-150-rims/57404/6 "2010-11-10T21:11:19Z")

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Yes, and for those who have forgotten, he drives that Explorer over 100 MPH at times…

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**Author:** ![mark9207](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71c47a/32.png) [@mark9207](https://community.cartalk.com/u/mark9207)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 11:42pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-ft-lbs-torque-2008-expedition-with-f-150-rims/57404/7 "2010-11-10T23:42:06Z")

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A torque wrench is cheap compared to the damage that will be done to that Expedition when a wheel falls off of it, especially at over 100mph. If you’re really cheap, buy one from Harbor Freight.

Two side notes: Expedition and F150 parts are largely interchangeable, and torque specs will be the same. Also, it’s not a bad idea to re-check the torque on alloy wheels after driving for a few days after installing them. Problems rarely occur, but it’s an easy, three minute insurance policy.

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**Author:** ![Robert-Gift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/robert-gift/32/356_2.png) [@Robert-Gift](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Robert-Gift)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 11:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-ft-lbs-torque-2008-expedition-with-f-150-rims/57404/8 "2010-11-10T23:44:40Z")

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Expedition.  
Top speed: 108 mph -maybe greater but I was looking at the pavement.  
Ford dealer says OK.  
But I don’t like stressing anything.  
Upon arrival, I let engine run several minutes as I run in and make the delivery.  
Then shut off and examine everything: oil, tires, coolant, brake and power steering fluids, etc.

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**Author:** ![waterboy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/waterboy/32/764_2.png) [@waterboy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/waterboy)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 11:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-ft-lbs-torque-2008-expedition-with-f-150-rims/57404/9 "2010-11-10T23:47:28Z")

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My brake guys will torque the lugnuts for free anytime to prevent warped rotors.

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**Author:** ![Robert-Gift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/robert-gift/32/356_2.png) [@Robert-Gift](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Robert-Gift)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 12:56am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-ft-lbs-torque-2008-expedition-with-f-150-rims/57404/10 "2010-11-11T00:56:48Z")

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Thank you, all.  
Was planning to drive a day and on the way back to quarters, ask Discount Tire, who kindly donated mounting and balancing, to re-torque - which hopefully gauges our wrench and my precision.

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**Author:** ![Robert-Gift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/robert-gift/32/356_2.png) [@Robert-Gift](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Robert-Gift)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 11:55am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-ft-lbs-torque-2008-expedition-with-f-150-rims/57404/11 "2010-11-11T11:55:54Z")

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Can a foot/pounds-reading torque wrench be used?: [http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/pi/detail.oap?line=WMR2&item=W3001C](http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/pi/detail.oap?line=WMR2&item=W3001C)

Or is it worth the extra cost of getting a “click-stop” wrench which releases athe tightness to which it is set?:

> **[1/2 in. Drive Click Type Torque Wrench](https://www.harborfreight.com/1-2-half-inch-drive-click-type-torque-wrench-239.html)**
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> Utilizing a heavy duty cam and pawl mechanism, this reversible 1/2 in. drive click type torque wrench is the go-to tool when precise torque is needed. The click type design of this torque wrench provides a torque range from 20-150 ft. lbs. and is...

Thank you.

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**Author:** ![PvtPublic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/pvtpublic/32/13089_2.png) [@PvtPublic](https://community.cartalk.com/u/PvtPublic)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 12:04pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-ft-lbs-torque-2008-expedition-with-f-150-rims/57404/12 "2010-11-11T12:04:38Z")

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I would get the “click-stop” but one with the torque I need (150ft/lb) more in the middle of the range than at the very end of it.

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 4:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-ft-lbs-torque-2008-expedition-with-f-150-rims/57404/13 "2010-11-11T16:29:46Z")

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It’s good sense to use a torque wrench at the speeds you run. Under-torqued wheels can come loose, and over-torqued wheels can warp the rotors. You don’t need either problem at 100+ MPH.
