# What do you think about this/

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-this/178501>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [August 4, 2021, 5:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-this/178501 "2021-08-04T17:44:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2021, 4:00am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-this/178501/21 "2021-08-06T04:00:02Z")

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Nothing is foolproof because fools are so ingenious.

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**Author:** ![thegreendrag0n](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/thegreendrag0n/32/9265_2.png) [@thegreendrag0n](https://community.cartalk.com/u/thegreendrag0n)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2021, 12:27pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-this/178501/22 "2021-08-06T12:27:31Z")

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makes me think it’s time to buy a “bridge vehicle” to wait through these nonsense times… although it’s not known yet if some even more ridiculous idea will be enshrined into a law

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**Author:** ![Remazz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a698b9/32.png) [@Remazz](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Remazz)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2021, 2:17am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-this/178501/23 "2021-08-07T02:17:33Z")

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From the article: “The idea for tech-based screenings had its own backers in the Senate, namely Republican Sen. Rick Scott of Florida.” Scott is as far from a “liberal” as one can get. (Not trying to start a debate, just being clear.)

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**Author:** ![Remazz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a698b9/32.png) [@Remazz](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Remazz)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2021, 2:20am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-this/178501/24 "2021-08-07T02:20:48Z")

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The article makes clear that, even if passed, it can be (probably would be) “slow-killed” by non-action. Also, the bill gives DOT 10 years (!) to come up with a working system.

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**Author:** ![Remazz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a698b9/32.png) [@Remazz](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Remazz)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2021, 2:22am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-this/178501/25 "2021-08-07T02:22:14Z")

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I don’t think you remember correctly. Do you have a source for the “sugar and salt” statement?

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**Author:** ![circuitsmith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/circuitsmith/32/40376_2.png) [@circuitsmith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/circuitsmith)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2021, 3:36pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-this/178501/26 "2021-08-07T15:36:00Z")

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> [@Remazz](#):
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> Also, the bill gives DOT 10 years (!) to come up with a working system.

Considering the rate of change in the electronics field I wouldn’t be surprised if a clever and super cheap solution is found by then.

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**Author:** ![wentwest](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/wentwest/32/6073_2.png) [@wentwest](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wentwest)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2021, 3:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-this/178501/27 "2021-08-07T15:48:16Z")

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How about a breathalyzer on all guns?

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**Author:** ![old\_mopar\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/6bbea6/32.png) [@old\_mopar\_guy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/old_mopar_guy)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2021, 5:24pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-this/178501/28 "2021-08-07T17:24:15Z")

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At some point laws will be passed forcing ICE powered vehicles off the roads.

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**Author:** ![Remazz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a698b9/32.png) [@Remazz](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Remazz)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2021, 7:00pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-this/178501/29 "2021-08-07T19:00:09Z")

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Even if solutions are available, “slow action” insures they are never put into effect.

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**Author:** ![Remazz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a698b9/32.png) [@Remazz](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Remazz)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2021, 7:03pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-this/178501/30 "2021-08-07T19:03:39Z")

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You don’t know much about them (“Heh heh”). Breathalizers and all other devices that test breath use a new straw each time.

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**Author:** ![Remazz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a698b9/32.png) [@Remazz](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Remazz)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2021, 7:12pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-this/178501/31 "2021-08-07T19:12:01Z")

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How is your privacy invaded if cars get better mileage, or sensors tell if you wander out of the lane, or side vision is abetted by cameras, or your car contributes less to climate change or other “safety improvements or emissions improvements”?

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2021, 9:00pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-this/178501/32 "2021-08-07T21:00:18Z")

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> [@Remazz](#):
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> Breathalizers and all other devices that test breath use a new straw each time.

But but but, straws are baaad and nearly illegal. Maybe they use the paper ones like we had back in 1955. Try drinking a malt with a single paper straw. Our betters will figure out what is best for us.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2021, 9:13pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-this/178501/33 "2021-08-07T21:13:06Z")

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> [@bcohen2010](#):
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> It means accepting a lot of undesirable “convenience” features and intrusive monitoring and communication features.

@Remazz I always appreciate providing enough of a person’s comment so we can tell what the hey the issue was without going back to see what they actually said. So I think this is what you were questioning.

True he/she/it probably was lumping some unrelated things together but the general thought I think was “I don’t want all these improvements”. I’m not particularly worried about being monitored at this point (which may rapidly change) but I am quite sure that my On Star and Acura Talk systems know where I am at any given moment, how fast I’m going, if I brake hard, have an emissions problem (on the car at least), and whether I stopped at McDonalds. I don’t think they know what I ordered yet but I do think that at least once in a while they listen in. As they say being paranoid doesn’t mean people aren’t listening to you. OTOH, these systems are being upstaged by the all and present Siri on the cell phones. Check out AI for much more. The good part is you can throw the thing out the window or take the battery out to silence her.

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**Author:** ![weekend-warrior](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/weekend-warrior/32/26122_2.png) [@weekend-warrior](https://community.cartalk.com/u/weekend-warrior)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2021, 10:45pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-this/178501/34 "2021-08-07T22:45:51Z")

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Our betters will figure out what is best for us.  
just like they told us to use plastic bags because we were killing all the trees. now we are back to paper bags… poor trees.

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2021, 11:13pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-this/178501/35 "2021-08-07T23:13:50Z")

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And how would the politicians be able to drive back to their office after lunch? … 😉

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**Author:** ![davepsinbox\_157004](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@davepsinbox\_157004](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davepsinbox_157004)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2021, 11:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-this/178501/36 "2021-08-07T23:29:06Z")

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> [@Remazz](#):
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> The article makes clear that, even if passed, it can be (probably would be) “slow-killed” by non-action. Also, the bill gives DOT 10 years (!) to come up with a working system.

Exactly. No reason to get upset.

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**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2021, 11:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-this/178501/37 "2021-08-07T23:41:37Z")

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As George Carlin says congress is the opposite of progress.

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2021, 11:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-this/178501/38 "2021-08-07T23:48:58Z")

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I watched George Carlin on a 1986 Johnny Carson re-run the other day. Very funny. It’s one non-sequitur after another. Here’s the link

> **[George Carlin Stand Up Comedy Routine on Johnny Carson's Tonight Show, 1986 -...](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2vvfqd)**
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> George Carlin Stand Up Comedy Routine on Johnny Carson's Tonight Show, 1986

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**Author:** ![Remazz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a698b9/32.png) [@Remazz](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Remazz)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2021, 12:00am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-this/178501/39 "2021-08-08T00:00:34Z")

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Google and other web searches show nothing about that DWI/visit family story. Do you have a source?

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**Author:** ![Remazz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a698b9/32.png) [@Remazz](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Remazz)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2021, 12:08am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-this/178501/40 "2021-08-08T00:08:06Z")

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I have no idea what you’re babbling about, as (maybe) you attempt to say what someone else was “probably” saying, which is quite clear. I tune out your comments since you posted about the use of straws in breath analyzers.

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