# We said it first here

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/we-said-it-first-here/73991>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** bentley, brooklands\
**Created:** [August 9, 2012, 4:05am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/we-said-it-first-here/73991 "2012-08-09T04:05:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 4:05am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/we-said-it-first-here/73991/1 "2012-08-09T04:05:34Z")

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There is an article about how to protect yourself when buying a car in USA Today. It reads like the advice that everyone has been passing on for years here. Anyone care to grade the author on completeness?

> **[How to watch out for previously wrecked used cars](https://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/perfi/columnist/odonnell/story/2012-08-07/used-car-history-report/56860460/1)**
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> Nearly 20 million cars get in reportable crashes each year. And your vehicle history report may not say if your used car was one of them.

All very sound information, though. I was disappointed that the [nmvtis.gov](http://nmvtis.gov) database referenced in the article is only available through the usual list of suspects, and we can’t do it ourselves. Still, at $4.95 the price is not high. It’s interesting to note that the author states that dealers are fooled with respect to prior damage. We’ve had a few posters ask about that recently. What do you think?

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**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 2:07am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/we-said-it-first-here/73991/2 "2012-08-10T02:07:58Z")

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I think she wrote a decent article for the space allotted. I’ll bet it was much better before it was edited for space. I also think she did a nice job of suggesting that carfax is a farce without subjecting her publication to legal ramifications. Why she recommended getting a carfax at the end of the article puzzles me. Perhaps her editor added it?

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**Author:** ![shadowfax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/shadowfax/32/13026_2.png) [@shadowfax](https://community.cartalk.com/u/shadowfax)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 4:35am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/we-said-it-first-here/73991/3 "2012-08-10T04:35:24Z")

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It’s still not a bad idea to get a carfax. A clean carfax is no guarantee that the car doesn’t have problems in its past, but a carfax that flags problems is a guarantee that, at the very least, you should be negotiating a lower price for the car.

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2012, 12:15am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/we-said-it-first-here/73991/4 "2012-08-11T00:15:40Z")

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I agree that it contains good advice. I would recommend all she said. The CarFax is also a good idea, and don’t expect it to be infallible. That’s why the prepurchase inspection is such a good idea.

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**Author:** ![ok4450](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ok4450](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ok4450)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2012, 5:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/we-said-it-first-here/73991/5 "2012-08-11T17:07:11Z")

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It’s not a bad article but some of the cases mentioned are a bit off-base; at least in my opinion.  
The first one about the Mustang Cobra and the dealer convincing the buyer that the car was fine because of a clean Carfax is one that should not be blamed on the dealer. The buyer claims the dealer “knew” it had been wrecked. Maybe, maybe not.

That car was 8 years old and likely purchased at auction. Once back at the lot it goes to detail and then on the line for sale. Odds are the dealer knew knew it was wrecked or even inspected it for damage; something a buyer should do before purchasing a vehicle. The buyer had time to check it the day AFTER the purchase so maybe he should have made time before signing on the dotted lines.