# We have come full circle on fuel pumps

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/we-have-come-full-circle-on-fuel-pumps/204252>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 15, 2025, 6:28pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/we-have-come-full-circle-on-fuel-pumps/204252 "2025-10-15T18:28:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2026, 9:23pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/we-have-come-full-circle-on-fuel-pumps/204252/61 "2026-01-24T21:23:53Z")

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Is that a 39 or 40 ford? Great car.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2026, 10:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/we-have-come-full-circle-on-fuel-pumps/204252/62 "2026-01-24T22:48:12Z")

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It’s a ‘40 Ford, one of my favorites.

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**Author:** ![old\_mopar\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/6bbea6/32.png) [@old\_mopar\_guy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/old_mopar_guy)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2026, 11:22pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/we-have-come-full-circle-on-fuel-pumps/204252/63 "2026-01-24T23:22:20Z")

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And some high-temp epoxy putty.

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**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2026, 11:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/we-have-come-full-circle-on-fuel-pumps/204252/64 "2026-01-24T23:59:32Z")

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Isky, Edelbrock, Offenhauser, George Barris, the 40’s through the 60’s in SoCal must have been such a fun place for car culture.

I was born in 1969 so missed most of that, but grew up within earshot of Ascot Park raceway. As a kid I could hear the rumble from my backyard. Today’s hot rods are faster and safer, but man, they just don’t have that raw, gritty feel.

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**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2026, 1:04am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/we-have-come-full-circle-on-fuel-pumps/204252/65 "2026-01-25T01:04:01Z")

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There’s a number of parts involved. That looks like the thermostatic valve assembly. To deliver heat to it, they used to have what we always called the stove. A sheet metal shroud that covered the exhaust manifold and had a circular output protrusion where a flexible, thin walled pipe would connect to the thermostatic valve to heat it. The manifold cover and pipe would rot out in no time due to the thermal cycling and cheap metal.

> [@Purebred](#):
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> I have, in my younger days, “fixed” exhaust pipes with tin cans and hose clamps.

Same here!

I grew up fixing things with whatever we had lying around. Turns out, not having money to just go out and buy new parts makes you figure out how to make do and that is beneficial in more ways than one. Certainly one of the great lessons taught to me by my Dad. We didn’t have a lot but he could have bought me a new bike if he wanted. Instead, he told me to go out to the shed and build one out of the parts there. You learn a lot about how to solve problems, develop mechanical and mental skills and learn to really appreciate what you have. That has served me well for my entire life. I resented it at first. It wasn’t until later in life I truly understood the gift I was given…

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**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2026, 2:11am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/we-have-come-full-circle-on-fuel-pumps/204252/66 "2026-01-25T02:11:01Z")

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Some confuse the heat riser valve with the heat stove or air intake heater.

The heat riser valve used on one side of a “V” banked engine forces exhaust gases through the crossover port in the intake manifold during engine warm up.

Both of these are mostly obsolete with fuel injected engines. Diesel engines use a heating grid to preheat intake air.

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**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2026, 4:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/we-have-come-full-circle-on-fuel-pumps/204252/67 "2026-01-25T16:29:39Z")

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No, it a Studebaker Starlight Coupe, but I would need to see the grill to tell the year. 😀😀

Hopefully a 51-52 Commander V8. Took a closer look, appears to have horizontal tail lights, making it an earlier model​☹

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2026, 4:34pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/we-have-come-full-circle-on-fuel-pumps/204252/68 "2026-01-25T16:34:41Z")

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> [@Purebred](#):
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> No, it a Studebaker Starlight Coupe, but I would need to see the grill to tell the year.

The pic shows a Studebaker, circa 1947-51, plus a 1940 Ford and a ‘50s Ford pickup.

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**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2026, 4:38pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/we-have-come-full-circle-on-fuel-pumps/204252/69 "2026-01-25T16:38:31Z")

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I know, that’s why the emoticons.

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**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2026, 1:50am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/we-have-come-full-circle-on-fuel-pumps/204252/70 "2026-02-05T01:50:54Z")

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> [@old\_mopar\_guy](#):
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> Ed is 104 years old!

I guess we jinxed it. I just saw that Ed died today. RIP Ed Iskenderian. I hope he was proud of his contributions to the hot rod world.

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**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2026, 4:40am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/we-have-come-full-circle-on-fuel-pumps/204252/71 "2026-02-05T04:40:49Z")

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> [@asemaster](#):
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> I guess we jinxed it. I just saw that Ed died today. RIP Ed Iskenderian. I hope he was proud of his contributions to the hot rod world.

RIP, the father of the performance camshafts, one of the greats, sad but he lived a long productive life…

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**Author:** ![oldtimer-11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e79b87/32.png) [@oldtimer-11](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldtimer-11)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2026, 7:57am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/we-have-come-full-circle-on-fuel-pumps/204252/72 "2026-02-06T07:57:23Z")

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Before fuel injction IK was considered perfectly normal for a cold engine to tall once or twice before the car warmed up. I can’t remember the last time I had a car stall.

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**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2026, 12:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/we-have-come-full-circle-on-fuel-pumps/204252/73 "2026-02-06T12:48:02Z")

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Maybe Minneapolis didn’t get cold enough, never had a carbureted engine stall when cold.  
Now, what is IK?

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2026, 1:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/we-have-come-full-circle-on-fuel-pumps/204252/74 "2026-02-06T13:20:22Z")

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> [@Purebred](#):
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> what is IK?

Internal **K** ombustion?

😉

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**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2026, 1:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/we-have-come-full-circle-on-fuel-pumps/204252/75 "2026-02-06T13:47:12Z")

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> [@VDCdriver](#):
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> > [@Purebred](#):
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> > what is IK?
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> Internal **K** ombustion?

I’m glad I am not the only one wondering about that… lol

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**Author:** ![old\_mopar\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/6bbea6/32.png) [@old\_mopar\_guy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/old_mopar_guy)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2026, 3:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/we-have-come-full-circle-on-fuel-pumps/204252/76 "2026-02-06T15:02:55Z")

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Seems to have been a typo for “it”.

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**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2026, 8:42pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/we-have-come-full-circle-on-fuel-pumps/204252/77 "2026-02-06T20:42:47Z")

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Ah yes, my favorite Cousin

 ![IMG_3317](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/7/d/7d6477ede8db3d46d41b2e0010167704ce5112d5.png)

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2026, 11:36pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/we-have-come-full-circle-on-fuel-pumps/204252/78 "2026-02-06T23:36:25Z")

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With carbs don’t forget the fast idle. Fun when the road is snow or ice covered and your car is ten years old and an automatic. Rear wheels keep spinning.

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**Author:** ![oldtimer-11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e79b87/32.png) [@oldtimer-11](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldtimer-11)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2026, 2:57am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/we-have-come-full-circle-on-fuel-pumps/204252/79 "2026-02-08T02:57:14Z")

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Typo fot it.

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**Author:** ![glasspilot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/glasspilot/32/27886_2.png) [@glasspilot](https://community.cartalk.com/u/glasspilot)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2026, 1:37pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/we-have-come-full-circle-on-fuel-pumps/204252/80 "2026-02-08T13:37:59Z")

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> [@oldtimer-11](#):
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> Typo fot it.

Oldtimer, try again.

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