# Waterless coolant **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Created:** [July 18, 2011, 7:15pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/waterless-coolant/66361 "2011-07-18T19:15:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![keith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/keith/32/5518_2.png) [@keith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/keith)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 12:34am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/waterless-coolant/66361/21 "2011-07-20T00:34:45Z")
You won’t be buying a Toyota then, you can’t change the ATF, at least not yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 1:32pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/waterless-coolant/66361/22 "2011-07-20T13:32:55Z")
I just might, but I would get one with a manual transmission. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/waterless-coolant/66361/23 "2011-07-20T15:35:24Z")
**You won’t be buying a Toyota then, you can’t change the ATF, at least not yourself.** Yes you can…There’s no drain plug…so you have to drop the pan (which you should anyways) to drain the fluid and the filter. Make sure you have a new gasket…Then reinstall the pan (with new gasket) and refill. ---
**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 4:13pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/waterless-coolant/66361/24 "2011-07-20T16:13:23Z")
That reminds me of oil extraction systems. Perhaps one could be used to change ATF without dropping the pan. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 5:00pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/waterless-coolant/66361/25 "2011-07-20T17:00:34Z")
Still should drop the pan so you can replace the filter. ---
**Author:** ![keith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/keith/32/5518_2.png) [@keith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/keith)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 9:00pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/waterless-coolant/66361/26 "2011-07-20T21:00:08Z")
**Yes you can…There’s no drain plug…so you have to drop the pan (which you should anyways) to drain the fluid and the filter. Make sure you have a new gasket…Then reinstall the pan (with new gasket) and refill.** Let me clarify a little, the fluid can be changed, you just can’t do it yourself. It has to be hooked up to a special machine. Also, there is no dipstick, no way to check the fluid level. It has to be hooked up to this machine to even check it. But according to Toyota, it never needs to be checked or changed. The problem is that if you get the fluid out, you can’t put it back in without the machine, no fill port. ---
**Author:** ![piter\_devries](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/aca169/32.png) [@piter\_devries](https://community.cartalk.com/u/piter_devries)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 6:50am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/waterless-coolant/66361/27 "2011-07-21T06:50:25Z")
Does the machine teleport the fluid in? Please don’t tell me you worked on Toyotas in the Navy. [http://rx300how2.home.comcast.net/~rx300how2/xmission\_fluid\_change1.htm](http://rx300how2.home.comcast.net/~rx300how2/xmission_fluid_change1.htm) > **[Toyota ATF flush-Do the expensive one or cheap one?](https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061128080916AAUCMDx)** > > I have posted this question here before, but I recently got a different perspective from the Toyota dealer in town, and I wanted to verify. They said that Toyota has a built in filter and so, they do not necessarily recommend doing a full... [http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=4&sqi=2&ved=0CEMQtwIwAw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DxOkP4nwkduw&rct=j&q=toyota%20atf%20change&ei=3sknTruJHpO4tge2g\_m7Cg&usg=AFQjCNH3p0TVlt5wTtL3m\_twt\_s\_2uLr0A&cad=rja](http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=4&sqi=2&ved=0CEMQtwIwAw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DxOkP4nwkduw&rct=j&q=toyota%20atf%20change&ei=3sknTruJHpO4tge2g_m7Cg&usg=AFQjCNH3p0TVlt5wTtL3m_twt_s_2uLr0A&cad=rja) ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 1:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/waterless-coolant/66361/28 "2011-07-21T13:01:19Z")
**But according to Toyota, it never needs to be checked or changed. The problem is that if you get the fluid out, you can’t put it back in without the machine, no fill port.** Maybe on some Toyota’s…but NOT on my 4runner. There’s a fill plug on the side of the transmission. And YES according to Toyota it NEVER needs to be checked or changed UNLESS…the transmission temp light comes on. I do NOT like this…never have…it’s like the monitors that tell people the oil is fine after 10,000 miles. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 1:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/waterless-coolant/66361/29 "2011-07-21T13:02:29Z")
Almost forgot…there’s a fill plug on the side of my wifes Lexus ES-350 too. ---
**Author:** ![keith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/keith/32/5518_2.png) [@keith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/keith)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 10:33pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/waterless-coolant/66361/30 "2011-07-21T22:33:28Z")
piter, none of your links apply. For those with this type of transmission, don’t remove that plug unless you have the special procedures for replacing the fluid. My understanding is that the special procedures require a special machine or you won’t get the level right. Also, this type transmission does not use the Toyota ATF, it uses something called WS fluid. [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/waterless-coolant/66361.md?page=1)