# Warming my car up

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/warming-my-car-up/98372>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [January 10, 2017, 3:25pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/warming-my-car-up/98372 "2017-01-10T15:25:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 3:25pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/warming-my-car-up/98372/1 "2017-01-10T15:25:33Z")

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That settles it… I’m warming my car up!! 😱

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/2X/b/b83ab303eaf0757563a76fee7b8817e7e891cc32.JPG)

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/warming-my-car-up/98372/2 "2017-01-10T15:33:55Z")

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When it gets to -40…MOVE. I’ll be in the 14 Highlander ahead of you on 93S.

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**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 3:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/warming-my-car-up/98372/3 "2017-01-10T15:41:50Z")

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LOL, been at -40F… never again!  
I doubt if either of us would be conscientiously complying with the speed limit!!!

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 4:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/warming-my-car-up/98372/4 "2017-01-10T16:52:22Z")

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Just make sure the car’s locked while it’s warming up:

> **[Heartless Cops Give Michigan Man $128 Ticket For Warming Car In Driveway](https://jalopnik.com/heartless-cops-give-michigan-man-128-ticket-for-warmin-1791023829)**
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> Michigan is cold as hell. It’s colder than hell. Michigan is where icy, frozen hell goes to cool off. So it’s easy to empathize with the plight of 24-year-old Nick Taylor, a poor Roseville, Michigan jamoke who received a $128 ticket from a soulless...

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**Author:** ![sgtrock21](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/sgtrock21/32/246_2.png) [@sgtrock21](https://community.cartalk.com/u/sgtrock21)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/warming-my-car-up/98372/5 "2017-01-11T20:34:26Z")

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A trivia tidbit most of us probably know is that -40F and -40C are the same temperature.

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 8:36pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/warming-my-car-up/98372/6 "2017-01-11T20:36:58Z")

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@texases You beat me to it!

It’s nuts to leave a running car unlocked in Roseville, or just about any Michigan city but it shouldn’t be illegal.

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**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 10:27pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/warming-my-car-up/98372/7 "2017-01-11T22:27:24Z")

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> [@sgtrock21](#):
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> A trivia tidbit most of us probably know is that -40F and -40C are the same temperature.

LOL, nice catch Sarge! I forgot about that entirely. 😜

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**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 11:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/warming-my-car-up/98372/8 "2017-01-11T23:16:27Z")

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Lived places where we hoped it would get up to 0 degrees. Not sure which I dislike more, 20 below or 120 degrees.

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**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 1:11am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/warming-my-car-up/98372/9 "2017-01-12T01:11:25Z")

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The news yesterday had that guy texases referred to that got a ticket for warming his car up in the driveway. According to the news, where he lives there’s a local ordinance against it. They showed the guy’s driveway on TV and it’s a single family home in a middle class neighborthood. Nothing particularly offensive or risky about it.  
If I were a cop I’d be humiliated to go to court and try to defend having given this guy a ticket… and the recipient IS fighting the ticket.

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 1:35am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/warming-my-car-up/98372/10 "2017-01-12T01:35:53Z")

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> [@the\_same\_mountainbik](#):
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> it’s a single family home in a middle class neighborthood

Reminds me of how times change. Everybody recall the Disney movie “The Shaggy Dog”. In the opening sequence of that 1960’s movie , takes place like you say in a house in an upper middle class neighborhood. The scientifically inclined kid of the house builds a good sized rocket in the basement and accidentally blasts it off. The rocket goes straight through three floors and out the roof! And nobody in the neighborhood even seems to take notice, certainly nobody gets a police visit or a ticket … lol …

These days, if a kid builds a rocket in the basement NSA will be planting bugs on the family phone … lol … And the other “how times change” thing about this movie, the homeowner of this 3 story home has a wife and two kids and is employed as a mailman. What mailman with a family these days can afford a 3 story home? Times do indeed change.

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**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 1:43am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/warming-my-car-up/98372/11 "2017-01-12T01:43:21Z")

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Don’t even know how many events in my childhood would have gotten me or my parents arrested these days. I had a friend with a pellet rifle, and me with a bb gun, in the back woods, someone called the police, parents called as we got hauled in, lost my bb gun as folks said no he does not want it back, can never forget driver training with my mom, I missed a stop sign, she said pull over and wait for the police, they did not come after 10 minutes so we drove on, but she was sure any infraction would not go unnoticed. McCarthy era paranoia I suppose.

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**Author:** ![sgtrock21](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/sgtrock21/32/246_2.png) [@sgtrock21](https://community.cartalk.com/u/sgtrock21)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 6:12pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/warming-my-car-up/98372/12 "2017-01-12T18:12:21Z")

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I suspected a heavy handed municipal ordinance since the car was in the owner’s driveway. This is my state’s law.  
Failure to secure motor vehicle  
(1) A person commits the offense of failure to secure a motor vehicle if the person is driving or is in charge of a motor vehicle and:  
(a) The person permits the vehicle to stand unattended on a highway without first doing all of the following:  
(A) Stopping the engine.  
(B) Turning the front wheels to the curb or side of the highway when standing upon any grade.  
© Locking the ignition.  
(D) Removing the key from the ignition.  
(E) Effectively setting the brake on the vehicle.  
(b) The person is the owner of an unattended motor vehicle parked on a highway in violation of paragraph (a) of this subsection.

The definition of ‘highway’ is: State, Federal, or Interstate which are under state DOT jurisdiction.

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**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 6:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/warming-my-car-up/98372/13 "2017-01-12T18:54:15Z")

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> [@Barkydog](#):
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> Lived places where we hoped it would get up to 0 degrees. Not sure which I dislike more, 20 below or 120 degrees.

Well, I choose the cold. You can always put more clothes on to stay warm but there’s only so many you can take off (before you’ll see something that can’t be unseen… 😄)

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**Author:** ![Triedaq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Triedaq](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Triedaq)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 7:28pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/warming-my-car-up/98372/14 "2017-01-12T19:28:30Z")

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I don’t mind temperatures below zero as long as the sun is shining.  
@sgtrock21. I use the fact that -40 C = - 40 F to convert from one scale to another. I can always remember these formulas:

C = (F + 40) x 5/9 - 40

F = (C + 40) x 9/5 - 40

The ratio comes from the fact that the difference between the freezing point of water and the boiling point on the F scale is 212 - 32 = 180 and on the C scale is 100 - 0 = 100. 100/180 = 5/9 and 180/100= 9/5. If you are going from Farenheit to Celsius you are shrinking the scale. If you are going from Celcius to Farenheit you are expanding the scale. Take the initial temperature and add 40. Depending on the direction you are converting the temperature, multiply by either 5/9 or 9/5 then subtract 40 from the result.

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**Author:** ![Hollywood1974](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@Hollywood1974](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Hollywood1974)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 3:19pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/warming-my-car-up/98372/15 "2017-01-28T15:19:46Z")

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when it is below freezing, I warm the car up. I think the car runs better, but I know that I run better if the car warmed up.
