# Vegan Cars, Cow Farts, And PETA... What? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 11, 2015, 3:55pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/vegan-cars-cow-farts-and-peta-what/90246 "2015-06-11T15:55:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![wesw](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/wesw/32/2713_2.png) [@wesw](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wesw)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 11:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/vegan-cars-cow-farts-and-peta-what/90246/61 "2015-06-12T23:09:09Z")
speaking of minks… peta people actually sabotaged a local mink farm and released all of the animals into the woods , years back now. I hope that some of them survived, but I seem to remember that most were dead in short order. it s a little warm for minks around here… ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 11:28pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/vegan-cars-cow-farts-and-peta-what/90246/62 "2015-06-12T23:28:14Z")
**“In the sixties Dupont, predicting a shortage of hides invented Corfam, a near leather like material for making shoes and other leather products requiring strength and flexibility. It never took off because good shoes continued to be made of leather …”** …and the short-lived mania for this type of stuff led BF Goodrich to develop its own version of Corfam, which they named Aztran. My family was in the shoe business and I recall asking my father why the Corfam & Aztran shoes disappeared from the marketplace after just a few years. He stated that the synthetic materials did not allow your feet to breathe properly, thus leading to stinky feet and foot fungus problems! Here is an ad for shoes made from Aztran: [![](http://www.vintageadsandstuff.com/viewfootwearmen86.jpeg) ](http://www.vintageadsandstuff.com/viewfootwearmen86.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![ken\_green](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/ken_green/32/816_2.png) [@ken\_green](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ken_green)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 11:49pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/vegan-cars-cow-farts-and-peta-what/90246/63 "2015-06-12T23:49:40Z")
How close to leather was it ? My son’s feet stink after wearing any shoes not made of leather…ANY shoes, we’ve tried many styles. Switch to leather…no stink ! ---
**Author:** ![wesw](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/wesw/32/2713_2.png) [@wesw](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wesw)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 12:36am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/vegan-cars-cow-farts-and-peta-what/90246/64 "2015-06-13T00:36:32Z")
I think that its an evolutionary thing, teenage boys have stinky feet so we can keep track of them better… ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 1:13am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/vegan-cars-cow-farts-and-peta-what/90246/65 "2015-06-13T01:13:21Z")
The naugas are gone because they never learned how to hide. I think PETA picked on Tesla because Tesla is a high profile target that hasn’t had a lot of bad press concerning a lack of compassion. That wouldn’t work with GM or Toyota, just to name two. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 1:15am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/vegan-cars-cow-farts-and-peta-what/90246/66 "2015-06-13T01:15:14Z")
Yeah they did the same at the U of MN lab. Broke in and let the animals go who then mostly died on their own. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 1:23am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/vegan-cars-cow-farts-and-peta-what/90246/67 "2015-06-13T01:23:55Z")
**“How close to leather was it ?”** Both Corfam and Aztran looked like leather, but that is where the similarity ended. IIRC, it was thicker than good-quality shoe leather, but the major issue was that it enabled moisture to get trapped inside the shoe while it was worn, and that is…not good in an olfactory sense, and is just not healthy from a medical perspective. Imagine wearing a plastic trash bag on your body on a hot, humid day. After a fairly short period of time, you would be sweating inside that bag and the sweat wouldn’t be able to escape the plastic. Much the same thing happened when people wore shoes made from those synthetic materials. ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 2:13am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/vegan-cars-cow-farts-and-peta-what/90246/68 "2015-06-13T02:13:47Z")
There’[s a new faux leather being used in high-buck supercars now called (I think) alcantara. Or something like that. I’ve never felt it, but I’ve seen it mentioned in Car Talk often. ---
**Author:** ![Triedaq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Triedaq](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Triedaq)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 3:54am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/vegan-cars-cow-farts-and-peta-what/90246/69 "2015-06-13T03:54:35Z")
Where was PETA when the Chrysler brought out the Cordoba with Corinthian leather seats? Are Corinthian cows now extinct since so many were killed for Cordoba seats? I had to take 2 years of agriculture and we had a,unit on different breeds of cattle, but. I have no recollection of the Corinthian breed. ---
**Author:** ![Docnick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Docnick](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Docnick)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 4:47am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/vegan-cars-cow-farts-and-peta-what/90246/70 "2015-06-13T04:47:57Z")
@Triedaq The Coreeeeenthian leather as promoted by Ricardo Montalban of fantasy Island was not any kind of leather but probably referred to the type of grain impressed on it. My wife had a friend who bought one and I don’t recall smelling any leather. ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 4:57am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/vegan-cars-cow-farts-and-peta-what/90246/71 "2015-06-13T04:57:14Z")
These all come from the wide variety of prodigy from the nauga herd. You know, the evolution thing? ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 5:03am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/vegan-cars-cow-farts-and-peta-what/90246/72 "2015-06-13T05:03:08Z")
Didn’t the term Corinthian leather refer to location? Somewhere near Italy I think. ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 5:08am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/vegan-cars-cow-farts-and-peta-what/90246/73 "2015-06-13T05:08:09Z")
A K-car with Italian leather seats? Interesting thought. ---
**Author:** ![Triedaq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Triedaq](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Triedaq)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 5:10am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/vegan-cars-cow-farts-and-peta-what/90246/74 "2015-06-13T05:10:17Z")
“the type of grain impressed on it” @Docnick–In other words, if I feed the cow “Coreeeeenthian” grain, I will get “Coreenthian” leather. . ---
**Author:** ![insightful](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/insightful/32/2732_2.png) [@insightful](https://community.cartalk.com/u/insightful)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 5:31am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/vegan-cars-cow-farts-and-peta-what/90246/75 "2015-06-13T05:31:52Z")
“Corinthian leather” was real leather, according to Wiki: > **[Corinthian leather](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corinthian_leather)** > > Corinthian leather is a term coined by the advertising agency Bozell to describe the upholstery used in certain Chrysler luxury vehicles. The term first appeared in advertising in 1974. Although the term suggests that the product has a relationship to or origination from Corinth, there is no relationship; the term is merely a marketing concept. While the term was first used during the marketing campaign for the 1974 Imperial LeBaron, it is usually associated with the marketing campaign for the 19... ---
**Author:** ![wesw](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/wesw/32/2713_2.png) [@wesw](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wesw)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 5:41am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/vegan-cars-cow-farts-and-peta-what/90246/76 "2015-06-13T05:41:59Z")
real leather, but just leather ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 5:50am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/vegan-cars-cow-farts-and-peta-what/90246/77 "2015-06-13T05:50:10Z")
Well, I’ve learned something. I’ve learned that some K-cars had real leather seats and that “Corinthian” means nothing. Well, I actually suspected the second point. ---
**Author:** ![Triedaq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Triedaq](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Triedaq)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 5:56am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/vegan-cars-cow-farts-and-peta-what/90246/78 "2015-06-13T05:56:13Z")
A theology student explained to me that the Cordoba had First Corinthian leather and the K-Car had Second Corinthian leather. ---
**Author:** ![kmccune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/kmccune/32/1237_2.png) [@kmccune](https://community.cartalk.com/u/kmccune)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 3:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/vegan-cars-cow-farts-and-peta-what/90246/79 "2015-06-13T15:29:17Z")
Used to be a good market for deerskin around here (went to Korea,I heard)Not so many Deer here now(too many Bear-the Bear eat the Fawns,big time,plus the Coyotes eat their share)on the plus side,the paucity of Deer has kept my garden safe this year(but the colder weather has throttled the growth back)I heard that Hyundai used the deerskins for seatcovers. The Folks that know better ,then the populace,reintroduced Otters into the area,now our native fish stocks are basically depleted. We may not have to wade through animal dung in the streets now,but one cannot say that automobiles,have not had a deleterious effect on the enviroment at times,so in conclusion I must say that even small amounts of pollution can have a large effect on the tiny part of the world sphere we inhabit.(my apologies for the disjointed rambling) ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 4:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/vegan-cars-cow-farts-and-peta-what/90246/80 "2015-06-13T16:17:07Z")
**“Didn’t the term Corinthian leather refer to location? Somewhere near Italy I think.”** Actually, Corinth is located in Greece. Is it “near” Italy? Well, it would be too far to swim, but I guess that you could make the trip by boat in a few hours. > **[Corinth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corinth)** > > Corinth (/ˈkɒrɪnθ/; Greek: Κόρινθος, Kórinthos, pronounced \[ˈkorinθos\] ( listen)) is an ancient city and former municipality in Corinthia, Peloponnese, which is located in south-central Greece. Since the 2011 local government reform it is part of the municipality of Corinth, of which it is the seat and a municipal unit. It is the capital of Corinthia. It was founded as Nea Korinthos or New Corinth (Νέα Κόρινθος) in 1858 after an earthquake destroyed the existing settlement of Corinth, which had d... [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/vegan-cars-cow-farts-and-peta-what/90246.md?page=3) [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/vegan-cars-cow-farts-and-peta-what/90246.md?page=5)