# Turning on headlights rolls down driver window completely

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/turning-on-headlights-rolls-down-driver-window-completely/173470>\
**Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\
**Created:** [December 20, 2020, 4:37pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/turning-on-headlights-rolls-down-driver-window-completely/173470 "2020-12-20T16:37:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![quentinsmithphone\_162532](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7cd45c/32.png) [@quentinsmithphone\_162532](https://community.cartalk.com/u/quentinsmithphone_162532)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 4:37pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/turning-on-headlights-rolls-down-driver-window-completely/173470/1 "2020-12-20T16:37:28Z")

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This is just one weird electronic issue my car seems to be having as there are a couple other minor things that have happened.

Can’t roll it back up without turning the lights off, and then trying again it usually doesn’t do it twice.

The battery and alternator are both new.

My question is what could be causing this? Also is it a simple fix?

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 4:40pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/turning-on-headlights-rolls-down-driver-window-completely/173470/2 "2020-12-20T16:40:22Z")

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> [@quentinsmithphone\_162532](#):
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> Also is it a simple fix?

The answer to that question hinges to some extent on knowing the make, model, and model year of your mystery vehicle.

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**Author:** ![quentinsmithphone\_162532](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7cd45c/32.png) [@quentinsmithphone\_162532](https://community.cartalk.com/u/quentinsmithphone_162532)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 4:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/turning-on-headlights-rolls-down-driver-window-completely/173470/3 "2020-12-20T16:48:37Z")

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2007 kia rio

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 4:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/turning-on-headlights-rolls-down-driver-window-completely/173470/4 "2020-12-20T16:56:26Z")

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A bad Body Control Module (BCM) is a possibility.

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**Author:** ![shanonia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de053/32.png) [@shanonia](https://community.cartalk.com/u/shanonia)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 5:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/turning-on-headlights-rolls-down-driver-window-completely/173470/5 "2020-12-20T17:29:11Z")

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I wonder about flood or collision damage with this scenario.

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**Author:** ![bcohen2010](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@bcohen2010](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bcohen2010)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 5:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/turning-on-headlights-rolls-down-driver-window-completely/173470/6 "2020-12-20T17:44:01Z")

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> [@quentinsmithphone\_162532](#):
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> 2007 kia rio

Should have gotten the much more common version which has hand crank windows, non-powered seats, etc. Seriously, though, this does sound like the kind of electrical “gremlins” you get on a car which has been under water, or which had a serious accident in the past.

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**Author:** ![quentinsmithphone\_162532](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7cd45c/32.png) [@quentinsmithphone\_162532](https://community.cartalk.com/u/quentinsmithphone_162532)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 5:49pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/turning-on-headlights-rolls-down-driver-window-completely/173470/7 "2020-12-20T17:49:39Z")

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Well there certainly haven’t been any flood/collision damage in the time I have owned the vehicle. The previous owner never said anything about it either, so I’m not too sure either way. That said it has had weird electronic issues pretty much since I’ve owned it. I also thought the weird problems were gone when I replaced the alternator, but then they came back it seems (or at least the one instance I mentioned in the original post did).

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 6:28pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/turning-on-headlights-rolls-down-driver-window-completely/173470/8 "2020-12-20T18:28:35Z")

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> [@quentinsmithphone\_162532](#):
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> The previous owner never said anything about it

Luckily, folks selling used cars never lie or conceal information.  
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> [@quentinsmithphone\_162532](#):
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> That said it has had weird electronic issues pretty much since I’ve owned it. I also thought the weird problems were gone when I replaced the alternator, but then they came back

That leads me to think that it did have either a flooding or collision problem before you bought it. As to the alternator, I would suggest that you have it tested. It is not unheard of for new or nearly-new aftermarket alternators to be defective.

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**Author:** ![circuitsmith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/circuitsmith/32/40376_2.png) [@circuitsmith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/circuitsmith)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 8:45pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/turning-on-headlights-rolls-down-driver-window-completely/173470/9 "2020-12-20T20:45:19Z")

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With weird electrical interactions the first thing I suspect is a bad ground connection.

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**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 6:14pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/turning-on-headlights-rolls-down-driver-window-completely/173470/10 "2020-12-21T18:14:19Z")

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The problem may be in the master window switch. There is a wire to the window switch that powers the light inside the window switches when the headlights are on. Disconnect the yellow wire (cavity # 4) from the master window switch and see if the problem goes away.
