# Transmission swap/96 Grand Cherokee

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/transmission-swap-96-grand-cherokee/78408>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [April 2, 2013, 3:57am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/transmission-swap-96-grand-cherokee/78408 "2013-04-02T03:57:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![badbearing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/badbearing/32/10683_2.png) [@badbearing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/badbearing)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2013, 3:57am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/transmission-swap-96-grand-cherokee/78408/1 "2013-04-02T03:57:43Z")

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Can anybody tell me how hard it would be for me to put a standard transmission in place of an automatic.

That is…i want to take out the automatic and replace it with a standard  
96 grand cherokee laredo

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**Author:** ![auto-owner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/50afbb/32.png) [@auto-owner](https://community.cartalk.com/u/auto-owner)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2013, 4:56am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/transmission-swap-96-grand-cherokee/78408/2 "2013-04-02T04:56:00Z")

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A nightmare. Forget it. And the end result will suck.

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**Author:** ![oldbodyman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbce88/32.png) [@oldbodyman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldbodyman)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2013, 5:34am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/transmission-swap-96-grand-cherokee/78408/3 "2013-04-02T05:34:23Z")

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Not a good idea of a swap. Way to many problems to over come and list.

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**Author:** ![EllyEllis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f14d63/32.png) [@EllyEllis](https://community.cartalk.com/u/EllyEllis)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2013, 6:40am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/transmission-swap-96-grand-cherokee/78408/4 "2013-04-02T06:40:29Z")

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Who in their right mind would trade an automatic for a manual anyway?? If you like to play with a “stick”, get yourself a toilet plunger, mount it tio the floor and play with IT.

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**Author:** ![FoDaddy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/fodaddy/32/717_2.png) [@FoDaddy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/FoDaddy)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2013, 9:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/transmission-swap-96-grand-cherokee/78408/5 "2013-04-02T21:41:36Z")

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@EllyEllis Some people enjoy a stick shift, there’s a reason 85% of the Miatas on the road are manual. I do think some cars are better suited for automatics though, and I would rather have an automatic in a truck, as they tend to have heavy clutches and long throws when you’re shifting.

But in the OP’s case, they never made a U.S. spec ZJ with a manual transmission so it’s not a practical swap at all, as there will be a ton of custom fabricating involved, and nothing good will come of it.

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**Author:** ![EllyEllis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f14d63/32.png) [@EllyEllis](https://community.cartalk.com/u/EllyEllis)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 3:26am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/transmission-swap-96-grand-cherokee/78408/6 "2013-04-03T03:26:19Z")

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What the heck does this mean? “and I would rather have an automatic in a truck, as they tend to have heavy clutches and long throws when you’re shifting”. –

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**Author:** ![FoDaddy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/fodaddy/32/717_2.png) [@FoDaddy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/FoDaddy)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 8:09am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/transmission-swap-96-grand-cherokee/78408/7 "2013-04-03T08:09:09Z")

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@EllyEllis

It means that the clutch pedal is stiff and hard to depress, it may also have an odd engagement point. Long-throw means that there is a long distance (relatively) between the gears. A large pickup truck will need to have a large and likely heavy clutch to stand up to the abuse of towing/hauling, so it’s more of chore to drive, the shifter will also have a long throws since most people aren’t going to be power-shifting them.

On the flip side a car like an S2000 with have shifter with a very short throw and a lighter clutch with a quicker engagement. In my daily driver, I have a short-shifter installed, it makes for bolt-action-like shifting, which is fun IMHO.

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**Author:** ![EllyEllis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f14d63/32.png) [@EllyEllis](https://community.cartalk.com/u/EllyEllis)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2013, 2:32am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/transmission-swap-96-grand-cherokee/78408/8 "2013-04-04T02:32:07Z")

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I understand what you are saying, but, FoDaddy, the OP is talking about an automatic!! “and I would rather have an automatic in a truck, as they tend to have heavy clutches and long throws when you’re shifting.”

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**Author:** ![FoDaddy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/fodaddy/32/717_2.png) [@FoDaddy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/FoDaddy)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2013, 10:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/transmission-swap-96-grand-cherokee/78408/9 "2013-04-04T22:47:12Z")

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He has automatic, but he/she is inquiring about swapping in a manual (standard) transmission, and I was suggesting that he’s better off with the automatic given the type of vehicle he has.

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**Author:** ![dagosa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/dagosa/32/9837_2.png) [@dagosa](https://community.cartalk.com/u/dagosa)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2013, 11:35pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/transmission-swap-96-grand-cherokee/78408/10 "2013-04-04T23:35:33Z")

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Just replace the Jeep with a standard transmission SUV of another make if you must. But this scenereo has too many pitfalls.

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**Author:** ![EllyEllis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f14d63/32.png) [@EllyEllis](https://community.cartalk.com/u/EllyEllis)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2013, 4:42am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/transmission-swap-96-grand-cherokee/78408/11 "2013-04-05T04:42:34Z")

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FoDaddy, I understand what you are saying and agree wholehartily. In fact, I don’t want a manual in anything.

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**Author:** ![dagosa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/dagosa/32/9837_2.png) [@dagosa](https://community.cartalk.com/u/dagosa)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2013, 2:42pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/transmission-swap-96-grand-cherokee/78408/12 "2013-04-05T14:42:24Z")

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Tractors are better served by a manual.;=)

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2013, 4:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/transmission-swap-96-grand-cherokee/78408/13 "2013-04-05T16:07:12Z")

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Righto @dagosa as is the aforementioned Honda S2000, never available with an automatic. So well designed, it doesn’t need the clutch to upshift or downshift with a skilled driver!
