# Toyota's sales **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 2, 2024, 10:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyotas-sales/197889 "2024-11-02T22:16:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 10:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyotas-sales/197889/1 "2024-11-02T22:16:36Z")
I heard on the radio today that Toyota’s 2024 sales are lagging its competitors. Appears to be mostly caused by problems outside the USA, but USA sales seem unimpressive as well. For folks here who were looking at buying a 2024 car, do you care to share your Toyota advantages/disadvantages list? ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 10:37pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyotas-sales/197889/2 "2024-11-02T22:37:07Z")
More of a world sales issue, not a US sales problem. “Toyota even struggled in the U.S., which has been a bright spot for the company for much of the year. Toyota’s U.S. sales are still up 6.2% year on year for 2024 thus far. Yet the carmaker’s U.S. sales fell 20.3% in September compared with a year ago, which it blamed on recalls and Hurricane Helene.” ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 10:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyotas-sales/197889/3 "2024-11-02T22:39:57Z")
> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#): > > do you care to share your Toyota advantages/disadvantages list? No I do Not. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 12:00am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyotas-sales/197889/4 "2024-11-03T00:00:43Z")
I recall seeing a European review of the Camry about a year ago. Camry sales were also dismal there too. ---
**Author:** ![wolyrobb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/wolyrobb/32/45497_2.png) [@wolyrobb](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wolyrobb)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 6:41am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyotas-sales/197889/5 "2024-11-03T06:41:52Z")
Uk sales in the final year were 271, compared to more than 271,000 sold in the US. Pricing was much more than we pay in the US and I suspect it was competing with BMW and Mercedes sedans at the UK price, it was the same reason the Camry failed in the UK in 2003 when it was predicted to loose most of the $40,000 USD equivalent starting price as a 3yr old car. ---
**Author:** ![JoeMario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@JoeMario](https://community.cartalk.com/u/JoeMario)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 11:31am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyotas-sales/197889/6 "2024-11-03T11:31:00Z")
> I heard on the radio today that Toyota’s 2024 sales are lagging its competitors. Appears to be mostly caused by problems outside the USA, but USA sales seem unimpressive as well. The data from this site shows Toyota holding its own quite well. > **[2024 U.S Auto Sales Figures – By Model (All Vehicle Ranked)](https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2024-u-s-auto-sales-figures-by-model-all-vehicle-ranked/)** > > Automotive Sales Data and Statistics ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 9:00pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyotas-sales/197889/7 "2024-11-03T21:00:19Z")
> [@JoeMario](#): > > data from this site shows Toyota holding its own quite well. That’s good to hear. I’m a Toyota fan. ---
**Author:** ![vipergg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/50afbb/32.png) [@vipergg](https://community.cartalk.com/u/vipergg)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 3:09am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyotas-sales/197889/8 "2024-11-04T03:09:50Z")
I think Toyota made a big boo boo with the new Camry’s in not having a version that has a straight ICE engine but instead making them all Hybrids . People don’t want that complexity . They already cost a fortune to fix without all the added cost and complexity . They also made a boo boo not having V6’s in the new Tacoma and the Tundras I do not believe you can get a /8 anymore either . Stack that on top of them having engine issues in the V6 turbo Tundras and transmission issues in the Tacomas doesn’t help either . ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 8:13pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyotas-sales/197889/9 "2024-11-04T20:13:20Z")
On the other hand, Toyota seems to be on-target choosing to focus on hybrid electrics rather than 100% electrics. It definitely seems a tough time for the car manufacturers trying to formulate their marketing plans. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 12:10am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyotas-sales/197889/10 "2024-11-05T00:10:01Z")
Toyota’s reliability problems don’t help either. See the link below. I didn’t realize that Toyota made so many big mistakes. > **[Explaining the Toyota Reliability 'Crisis'](https://www.thedrive.com/news/explaining-the-toyota-reliability-crisis)** > > Toyota's reputation for reliability is reeling after a string of high-profile recalls and failures this year. Let's take a look at whether it's a true shift or a temporary rough patch. ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 5:26pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyotas-sales/197889/11 "2024-11-05T17:26:31Z")
The part about the Tacoma automatic transmission is not accurate, they totally forgot to mention the AC60E/F 6 speed (2016-2023, I4&V6) automatics and went straight from the V6 only (I4 was a 4 speed auto)(2005-2015) A750E/F 5 speed automatics to the 2024 8 speed automatics… Don’t know about the rest of the info, but if that part was that far off, well… E/F = E for RWD and F for 4WD… My axle recall was already done when I bought it…