# Toyota Fix **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** toyota\ **Created:** [February 2, 2010, 3:22am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-fix/43679 "2010-02-02T03:22:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Caddyman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/caddyman/32/23_2.png) [@Caddyman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Caddyman)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 3:22am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-fix/43679/1 "2010-02-02T03:22:15Z")
So does anyone know, exactly, what the fix is?? Is it a mechanical modification to the gas pedal or does it involve replacing electronic control boxes…Are the new parts the same for all the recalled models or are there many different parts depending on model… ---
**Author:** ![twotone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@twotone](https://community.cartalk.com/u/twotone)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 4:13am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-fix/43679/2 "2010-02-02T04:13:17Z")
> **[Why Toyota Must Replace Flawed CTS Gas Pedal With Superior Denso Pedal - The...](http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2010/02/why-toyota-must-replace-flawed-cts-gas-pedal-with-superior-denso-pedal/)** > > Update: a portal to all of TTAC’s articles on the subject of Toyota gas pedals is here: Toyota uses two different electronic gas pedal designs in its cars. The version built by CTS (lower) is the subject of a massive recall, and the 2.3 million units... ---
**Author:** ![dagosa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/dagosa/32/9837_2.png) [@dagosa](https://community.cartalk.com/u/dagosa)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 2:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-fix/43679/3 "2010-02-02T14:05:22Z")
Just a narrow minded response after reading it. How far do we have to go, to complicate the internal combustion engine, to make them efficient to survive long enough to burn all that unused profit still left in the ground while keeping the multitude of parts suppliers employed ? There’s no easy answer when you can’t even replace your own gas pedal. The car has evolved into the ultimate form of socialism. ---
**Author:** ![Caddyman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/caddyman/32/23_2.png) [@Caddyman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Caddyman)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 8:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-fix/43679/4 "2010-02-02T20:09:10Z")
Looks like a feeding frenzy for lawyers, now and in the future…Lot’s of stuff going on backstage, that’s for sure… ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 12:55am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-fix/43679/5 "2010-02-03T00:55:43Z")
The dealer will put a metal shim into the mechanism. Here’s a before and after cartoon, with story: > **[Toyota to begin pedal recall fix - resume production next week](https://www.motor1.com/news/19908/toyota-to-begin-pedal-recall-fix-resume-production-next-week/)** > > Dealers will begin receiving fix parts on Tuesday (today). Production will resume next week at six Toyota assembly plants in North America after it was halted to create a pedal fix for vehicles coming off the production line. ---
**Author:** ![waterboy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/waterboy/32/764_2.png) [@waterboy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/waterboy)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 1:13am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-fix/43679/6 "2010-02-03T01:13:32Z")
Economic Miracle, a postage stamp size of metal will solve the problem, I have no reason to doubt it, I sincerely hope that solves the problem, really I do! ---
**Author:** ![americar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/americar/32/42_2.png) [@americar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/americar)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 1:31am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-fix/43679/7 "2010-02-03T01:31:41Z")
Its just not just any postage stamp piece of metal. Its Precision !!! ---
**Author:** ![EllyEllis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f14d63/32.png) [@EllyEllis](https://community.cartalk.com/u/EllyEllis)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 1:59am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-fix/43679/8 "2010-02-03T01:59:21Z")
well, if they had left the old throttle cable on their cars, this probably woild never happend. ---
**Author:** ![Wha-Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9f8e36/32.png) [@Wha-Who](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Wha-Who)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 4:52am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-fix/43679/9 "2010-02-03T04:52:18Z")
The shim, which appears to disengage the part that induces a minor amount of friction in the gas pedal feel may not be satisfactory for all drivers but will have to do until enough new pedal mechanisms are available after new vehicle production requirements are met. Toyota had to do something for existing cars immediately. ---
**Author:** ![Docnick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Docnick](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Docnick)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 2:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-fix/43679/10 "2010-02-03T14:54:05Z")
The problem is determined to be the mechanical part of the throttle which can bind with wear and excessive moisture. That’s what the fix is for. Agree this is a media hype and lawyer feeding frenzy; Class Action lwasuits are being launched in Canada and the USA already. Toyota has very deep pockets and the lawyers know this. No doubt someone’s sex life will be ruined by this gas pedal problem as well. The lawsuits also will have a “Pain and Suffering” type of damage claim! ---
**Author:** ![tardis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@tardis](https://community.cartalk.com/u/tardis)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 3:18pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-fix/43679/11 "2010-02-03T15:18:50Z")
No, it’s the mechanical part of the gas pedal. The mechanical part of the throttle (on the engine) is not suspect. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 4:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-fix/43679/12 "2010-02-03T16:44:12Z")
“Its just not just any postage stamp piece of metal. Its Precision !!!” I detect sarcasm. If you look at the cartoons I referenced, you will see that it is a pretty precise little piece of metal. It fits into the grooves between the pedal and its mount. This is supposed to prevent binding but render the same level of friction that the original device was meant to provide. If it works, and DOT seems to think it will, it is an inexpensive and robust cure. ---
**Author:** ![Caddyman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/caddyman/32/23_2.png) [@Caddyman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Caddyman)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 4:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/toyota-fix/43679/13 "2010-02-03T16:46:03Z")
What it is is plastic junk…A little friction creator that gives the pedal a nice, smooth feeling and limits back-pressure on the drivers foot…But if this plastic mechanism gets sticky, for whatever reason, the throttle may stick in position like the cruise control was engaged…So they have made a little shim to separate the two parts so theoretically, they can no longer stick. Divers may notice slightly increased back-pressure on their right foot from the gas pedal… A company called CST makes these pedal mechanisms. Another supplier, Nippon-Denso, makes them too…Their design (completely different) is not being recalled. A better “fix” would be to install the Denso part instead of modifying the troublesome CST part…The device in question, made out of plastic with a spring or two, fits in the palm of your hand and might cost $5 to manufacture…